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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« on: October 22, 2022, 10:16:54 PM »
Hi Jean and Ed,

While I was making the video about Planetdance and the dozens of features it calculates, an idea came to me. We know that in Ancient Astrology transits act as triggers and with very few exceptions only the transits of the rulers of the times are to considered.

Can you program a feature that allows the user to select and calculate the transits to a given planet, and to have the option of selecting the transit to be to that planet's natal position and its solar revolution one?

An example. See attached Novak Djokovic's nativity and 2022 SR.

His data is 22 May 1987, 23h.25m, Serbia, Belgrade, Asc 16.04 Cap.

He turned turned 35 this May = 12th place year = Sag = Jupiter is the Lord of the Year/LoY. Natal Jupiter is at 18.57 Ari. Jupiter returns and is at 2.07 Ari in the 2022 SR.

Can you program it so the user can see:

1) the ingress dates into and out of natal and SR Jupiter in this case. So when planets ingress into Ari;

2) the transit dates to the exact aspects to natal Jupiter at 18.57 Ari and SR Jupiter 2.07 Ari?

3) the ingress dates of planets transiting the profected Asc (Sag in this case);

4) the ingress dates of planets transiting the SR Asc (Leo in this case);

5) the ingress dates and aspects of transiting planets to the natal Lot of Fortune (Pisc in this case);

6) the ingress dates and aspects of transiting planets to the SR Lot of Fortune (Tau in this cae);

The key here is to have the option to select the ingresses and the transited planet/stake/Lot, either natally or in the solar revolution. As far as I know, no astrological software offers this feature.

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Hi Jean and Ed,

I am very glad to see that Planetdance calculates the Decennials classical predictive technique. I would like to ask you to add an option in it so that the user can select which planet the sequence starts from.

Please see the attached example chart: 16 Jul 2021, 7.31 am, Greenwich, London, UK, Asc 19 (tropical) Leo. It is a day chart and the Sun is in the 12th house, both by Pophyry and whole signs. Because the Sun is the Sect Light and is in a bad house, Planetdance starts the Decennials sequence from the Moon (in the 3rd house by Porphyry and whole signs). However, while the Moon is in her joy there, this is also a cadent house.

I would like Planetdance to give the user the option of selecting which planet to start the technique with. In this chart, instead of the Moon, it could be Mars instead - the first planet in the Ascendant. The way Planetdance calculates Decennials is more in line with Firmicus and Hephaistio of Thebes, but I would very much like to have the Valens option. In other words, when the Lights are in bad places and/or those not conducive to business, the user gets to choose which planet will start the division of the times.

I am asking this for practical reasons as I have real live charts with similar positions of the Lights where the default starting planet option does not work/does not reflect the life of the native.

Thank you.

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Hi Jean,

I noticed that Planetdance does not show the fixed stars conjunct the Dsc or IC when the stars are shown as objects to the right of the main chart. In other words, it shows them within the fixed stars module but not next to the main screen.

For example, if Sirius is conjunct the Dsc (please see attached file), or Regulus is conj the IC, one will not be able to see that immediately. I wanted to ask you: would it be a lot of work to add this function to Planetdance? Having it like this would be much easier on the eyes to see the major stars as soon as calculating the main chart.

I realize when can draw the stars in the wheel, but I have too many symbols in the wheel already and I like a lot the fact that I can enlarge the font of the objects to the right of the main chart.

Zagata


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Hi everyone,

It is time to put Planetdance in action with Sports Astrology predictions.  :)

Note: About 90% of this method is based on American Jyotish astrologer Simon Chokoisky as described in his book Gambler’s Dharma - Winning with Vedic Astrology. Simon says that the method works with about 70% accuracy. His book contains about 40 example charts of real events that he bet money on and won, and he has the betting slips to prove it. As far as I know, Simon has been into the crypto currencies market for the past 3 years. Anyhow, my point is I have been researching his system and trying to improve its accuracy. As a result, I have had some valuable discoveries that improve the accuracy of the system, but it is a long journey. This will be the first time I share this on a public forum. Lastly, this analysis and prediction includes astrological methods only, that is, it does not take into account any sports factors, such as injuries of key players, suspensions, etc.


Special Note: 

This is being done for research purposes, at least as of writing this. If someone wishes to bet money on these Sports Astrology predictions, a whole other can of worms is opened. By that I mean, one has to know whether winning like this is promised in their nativity. On top of that, there are a number of rules of when NOT to bet. This is examined in detail in Simon’s book. Simon says he lost thousands of dollars and learned the hard way! Please do not assume you are above those rules!

The Match: Turkey vs Italy - 11 June 2021, 9.00 pm local time in Rome, Italy

The first match I will examine and predict is Turkey vs Italy. The odds are 7.00 for Turkey to win, 3.80 for a draw and 1.55 for Italy to win.

In this method, as in the Western method, the favourite is always given the Asc and its lord while the underdog is given the Dsc and its lord. To these are added the 10th house and its lord for the favourite and the 4th house and its lord for the underdog. The favourite is determined by the odds the bookmakers, which are sort of a consensus reality. I am in Europe and have always used decimal odds. So, the smaller odds always show the favourite. E.g. 1.55 for Italy means that if one bets 100 euro, they will get back their 100 euro + earn 55 euro in profit. Likewise, if someone bets 100 euro that the match will end in draw, they will win their 100 back + 280 euro in profit.

I am writing these basic explanations for the opening match and will not be repeating them for any other matches I examine and publish here.


The Method

The method comes from Indian Astrology/Jyotish and hence uses the sidereal Zodiac. Simon used Krishnamurti ayanamsha but then switched to Krishnamurti New, which is pretty much equals Lahiri. Whole Sign Houses are used, as well as the Placidus house system, which Krishnamurti used. Lastly, you must have the exact start of the match. In some cases a difference of 30-40 seconds, which is common in football, will weaken or even change some key points. The method uses the classical 9 planets in Indian Astrology. Trans-Saturnian planets, “Indian” planets Gulika and Upaketu, and a few asteroids are ONLY used if they are conj the house cusps given below within 2.00 degrees. So do not be alarmed when you see a chart full of unknown glyphs.

The favourite/fav gets houses 1, 3, 6, 10, 11.

The underdog gets the same houses from its house, that is, 7, 9, 12, 4, 5.


Victory House Technique

Malefics in the whole sign houses. The malefics are Saturn, Mars, Sun, Rahu/North Node, and Ketu/South Node.

Points range from 2.5 to 4 per planet. If a planet is in its exaltation, its gets +0.5 or even +1. If it also has directional strength/dig bala, it gets +0.5 or +1. If a planet is walking back/”retrograde” it gets an additional 0.5.
The benefics can act as malefics and give points only if they are exaggerated: “retrograde”, exalted, or in its own domicile and combust. Possibly also when they are their own nakshatra lords.

The favourite gets +2.5 points here because the Sun and Rahu are in the 6th and Ketu only is in the 12th.


SKY/PKY Yogas

When there is one or more benefics in the 12th and one or more in the 2nd, from the Asc or from the 7th, i.e. in the 6th and 8th whole sign house, this is called a SKY configuration. It is very favourable and gives 7-9 points depending on the planets and their zodiacal state.
Conversely, when there are malefics in these places, hemming in the Asc or Dsc, a PKY configuration is formed. It is negative, but Simon says it is not as negative as the SKY is positive for sports. It deducts - 7 points.

Here we have a PKY afflicting the Dsc/underdog, because the Sun and Rahu are in the 6th WS and Mars is in the 8th WS. That hurts the underdog. We write it as +7, because when + is given, it shows points to the favourite. When - is given, shows points added to the underdog.
Notice that Ketu and Saturn are hemming in the Asc and forming a PKY. Having said that, Ketu is not real planet, it is not visible in the sky, so this PKY is weaker than the other one and hence afflicts the favourite less. I would give it -4 points.


Other rules

Neither L1 nor L7 is combust. There is no planetary war either (when the relevant significators are conjunct within 1 degree of longitude).


There is mutual reception/generosity between Mercury and Venus, but I would not use it because both are in houses assigned to different teams, not one team. Otherwise it can give 3-4 points, depending on zodiacal state.

Lord 1 or lord 7 does not rule the day (Venus) or planetary hour (Mars). Otherwise I assign 3 points when it rules the hour and 5 points if it rules both. Simon does not mention these.


Cuspal Strength

No planet or asteroid is conjunct the 1st, 7th, 10th, 4th, 6th or 12th house cusp. Otherwise the (classical) planets give 7-9 points depending on orb and nature. Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Gulika, Upaketu or asteroids give 7 points. The orb is 2.30 degrees for planets and 2.00 degrees for the others. It can only be slightly extended (15 to 30 min) if a planet is exalted or “retrograde”, but be careful with this orb extension. No planets are conj cusps, so I will not elaborate here is it will become way too long. There are no stolen cusps either. For the definitions, I refer those interested to Simon’s book.


Navamsha/D9 Strength and Navamsha combos in D9 Asc or Dsc

Planets conj the D9 Asc degree or D9 Dsc degree within 2.30 degrees. Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron, Upaketu, Gulika within 2.00 degrees. Planetdance does not show the degrees of the divisional/varga charts, so I had to calculate them by hand or use other software. If Planetdance can show the degress that would be really useful. There are no contacts/activations in the D9 chart. Again, I am not gonna elaborate here is it will become way too long.

No D9 planetary combos in this chart.


Krishnamurti Sublords Table Strength of Sublord vs Sublord 7

We are only interested in the comparison between sublord of the 1st house vs the sublord of the 7th cusp. This calculation takes time, which is why I registered and asked Ed if he would program it. I already calculated the table and explained in detail how it is done here:

https://jcremers.com/forum/index.php/topic,162.0.htm


The file, which I have attached here as well, is called: Krishnamurti-Chokoisky sublord 1 vs sublord 7 table for Turkey vs Italy.

Here the favourite gets a 10+ point advantage.


Sublord Array

When all 12 sublords from the Krishnamurti table (also given in the above post as well as table) occupy house assigned to one of the teams, that gives a 7-9 point boost. In other words, if the sublords of all the 12 house cusps are situated, by whole sign houses, either in 1, 3, 6, 10, 11, or in 7, 9, 12, 4, 5, that team gets these points.

Since the 8th and 2nd houses are neutral in this method, if say 2 sublords fall there, while the remaining ones fall in the houses of the fav or the dog, the boost can still be counted as valid, though I would give it 7 points, not 9.

Simon also says that if this method does not apply to a chart to examine whether sublord 1, 7, and 10 fall in the houses assigned to either the fav or the dog. For this particular submethod only, treat the 8th as belonging to the fav and the 2nd as belonging to the dog. Whoever has this, gets 3 points.


No sublord array nor the weaker one is present in this chart.


Navamsha syllables for the 10th house cusp

There is a table of the 108 sounds of the Navamsha syllables of the Zodiac. The reasons they are 108 is because one “sign”/zoidion/image is divided into 9 parts as per the Navamsha/Novenaria. Again, the sidereal Zodiac is used. This is an Ancient Hindu tradition.

The MC degree is 25.07 Virgo = the 8th part of Vir - from 23.20 to 26.40 Vir, which corresponds to the “Pe” sound. Neither Italy nor Turkey have that sound as the begining of their name, so no points are assigned. In the rare occasions this happens, a team gets 14-18 points!


Fixed Stars

Simon comes from the Jyotish tradition, where they do not use that many stars. They focus on the nakshatras. Simon gives about 15 fixed stars that work in his experience and says that more research needs to be done. He uses the stars by conjunction by longitude, regardless of whether the star is on the ecliptic. He does not examine the issue whether a fixed star that does not rise on the local horizon can be used either. The ancients were emphatic that it cannot be used.

The orb is 1.00 degrees, preferably even smaller. The smaller the orb, the more powerful the effect. The primary significators are the 1st, 10th, 7th and 4th cusps and their lords. Simon says he focuses mainly on the cusps, and he also uses the stars conj the 6th or 12th cusp, but one has to sort of read between the lines to get the latter explanation.

This chart does not have any activation by the stars give by Simon.

However, the Asc is conj 3 malefic stars in the Scorpion: Lesath (Up Sco)- 4 min, Schaula (M6 Sco) + 30 min, Aculeus (Lam Sco) +40 min. In my research so far, these stars are really malefic. I give about 7 points to a star, but not in this case, because it would overwhelm the entire chart. I guess one could deduct 10 or 12 points from the favourite. If Planetdance can be made to show the fixed stars conjunct the planets and angles within the Planetdance main chart, that would be fantastic. I tried and it shows them but I could not see the degrees of the stars. Also, if Planetdance could show them conjunct just by longitude, not by declination, that would be great.


Lastly, the star Mirach (B Andromeda, of the nature of Venus) is very closely positioned on the IC by paran. Simon does not mention the parans at all, but I have found some of them to be really powerful. By paran, of course, I mean the real ones used by the ancients, not the pseudo ones that Bernadette Brady came up with in which every chart has dozens of parans. I mean degrees and stars of the 36 extra-zodiacal constellations that co-rise at a given location. Parans are extremely sensitive to location! And their orb/influence lasts for mere minutes at that location, not for 1-2 days as with fixed stars. For those that want to know more, I recommend this video called Hellenistic Parans (ignore the fact that Davic Cockhrane uses the wrong year for the chart in question):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yXcoBMDyE

Unfortunately, as far as I know only Sirius software calculates the parans correctly. This is a crucial technique that ancient astrologers used. It would be really useful, not just for Sports Astrology but for helping people, if Planetdance could offer this calculation. It measures the stars by right ascension for the Meridian and by altitude for the horizon. I use Rumen Kolev’s Porphyry Magus software for this, but it only shows the exact orb for the Asc, not for the other angles. For the other angles one must visually check if a major star is on them. See the attached file. I circled Mirach on the IC by paran. Again, this configuration would either be with a much larger orb in other cities in the same country, or it would be valid at some other time of the day. And this is provided the star rises on that location, which it does here as Andromeda is a very northern constellation and Italy is 40N+ latitude.

As to the effect of Mirach, while it is positive in nativities, I am not sure in sports charts. More research is needed. I have seen the alpha star of Andromeda, Alpheratz, as possibly positive though.


Summary and Prediction

Simons’ system would show 19.5 points to the favorite Italy vs 4 points to the underdog Turkey. This is a 15.5 points difference.

If one uses the stars in the Scorpion as afflicting the favourite, as I would, and gives them at least 12 points, then it becomes 19.5 vs 16.5 = a 3 point difference.

Simon says that his research shows that for “soccer” a 3 point difference generally shows a winning difference by 1 goal.

So, according to his system, it would mean that Italy would win by at least 2 goals, to put it conservatively.

According to my system, if Italy wins, they would win by a 1 goal difference.

If the stars in the Scorpion are more malefic, or if Mirach of Andromeda gives a slight boost to the underdog, then the match would end in a draw.

I have to specify that is more important to determine whether a team would win or not, and now not by how many goals/points. Of course, it is more certain if the system shows that a given team has a bigger advantage in points.

What an essay post! My other ones will be shorter, but I wanted to explain the method.

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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Krishnamurti KP significators table
« on: June 08, 2021, 01:25:19 PM »
Greetings,

I found out just yesterday about your great astrological software. I installed it and am amazed with the so many traditional astrological calculations it offers. And it is free - thank you!

I have a request. Could you please program and add the Krishnamurti table to the Vedic module? It divides the Zodiac into 249 parts, ruled by each of the 9 planets in Indian Astrology. It is used for extracting specific information from the chart, such as telling why twins can have major differences in their lives. If you are interested, I can provide a screenshot of the table taken from an example chart.

This KP significators table can also be used for sports investing, which is something I am also interested in. If Planetdance can calculate and display the strength in points of the lord of the Asc vs the strength in points of the lord of the Dsc, that would be fantastic. Calculations are easy to do, but it would save a lot of the time over the long run. I can make a table and show you what I mean. This is based on American astrologer Simon's Chokoisky's book Gambler's Dharma - Sports Betting with Vedic Astrology. Given that Planetdance offers a Vedic module with the needed D9 chart, I am sure that other astrologers would appreciate this as well since currently no paid professional software that I know of provides this calculation.

Thank you for your consideration.  :)

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