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Hi Jean,

Thank you. I updated Planetdance but do not see the stars. Please see the attached file: Regulus on Dsc and Rigel on IC: 13 May 2021, 2.43 am, Greenwich, UK. Asc 5.41 Aquarius, Lahiri.

The fixed star module shows Regulus opposing the Asc and Rigel opposing the MC, but they are not shown in the listed stars to the right of the main chart. Spica and Arcturus are not conj the MC at 23.42 Sco because they are at 0 Libra. The Moon is indeed conj the 2 Hyadum stars.

Am I doing something wrong with the settings?

Zagata

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Hi Jean,

I noticed that Planetdance does not show the fixed stars conjunct the Dsc or IC when the stars are shown as objects to the right of the main chart. In other words, it shows them within the fixed stars module but not next to the main screen.

For example, if Sirius is conjunct the Dsc (please see attached file), or Regulus is conj the IC, one will not be able to see that immediately. I wanted to ask you: would it be a lot of work to add this function to Planetdance? Having it like this would be much easier on the eyes to see the major stars as soon as calculating the main chart.

I realize when can draw the stars in the wheel, but I have too many symbols in the wheel already and I like a lot the fact that I can enlarge the font of the objects to the right of the main chart.

Zagata


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I was planning on publishing a prediction today either for Austria vs Northern Macedonia or for Netherlands vs Ukraine, but the sublord/s are on the verge of changing. I am talking about 12 seconds in the case of the former and 21 seconds if the case of the latter. The Austria vs Northern Macedonia started 22 seconds later and changed the sublords. I don't know when the Netherlands vs Ukraine match will start and hence prefer not to spend my time calculating 2 options and then writing them down.

The bottom line is there has to be at least a 60, or preferably a 90 second cushion so that sublord 1 or sublord 7 do not change. Planetdance is really helping time with the sublord technique, and I am really grateful to Jean and Ed, but as you saw there are 7-8 other techniques, and when one starts to write things down, it really takes a while when one has to go back and forth between the different results of the sublords.

As a result, I will not be publishing predictions on such matches. They are best followed live. I will stick with matches where sublords do not change for within 60-90 seconds.

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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Krishnamurti KP significators table
« on: June 12, 2021, 11:27:01 PM »
Sure Ed, thank you. I will send it to you right now.

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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Krishnamurti KP significators table
« on: June 12, 2021, 08:12:05 PM »
Hi Ed,

Thank you. I did not know it would that difficult from a coding point of view. I am sorry.

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Results from predictions and commentary

Italy vs Turkey 3-0. All goals were scored in the 2nd half.

Wales vs Switzerland 1-1. All goals were scored in the 2nd half, with the favourite Switzerland scoring first and the underdog equalizing.

The Turkey-Italy chart is an indication that the stars in the Scorpion ought to be counted as 1 influence, not individually. Also, that Mirach on the IC by paran has no influence and that Tejat of Gem conj the Dsc has not influence. Ultimately, the sublord +10 point difference decided the match.

The Wales-Switzerland match showed why one MUST use parans and other powerful stars. Otherwise Simon's system showed 0 vs 24 points to the underdog, meaning they should have won by 2-3 goals. But Vega on Asc by paran and Moon MC lord conj Sirius, the brightest star in the sky, helped the favourite. I expected the underdog to win, so my prediction did not come true either, although I did write that there was value in the 1X bet, meaning one would have multiplied their bet by 1.75.

Attention: The Wales-Switzerland match actually started 1 minute and 46 seconds later. That is a lot. It changed sublord 7. While it did not make a difference in this technique, in others it could be disastrous. Especially if one is betting money. 

Moreover, by starting these 106 seconds later, I just checked and saw that the Asc (20.24 Libra at actual start of the match) came closer to Zuben Algenubi - Alpha Libra, a powerful fixed star on the ecliptic at 21.13 Libra. Simon says it boosts the cusp it touches. This brought 7 points to the favourite! Knowing this, I would not have predicted a win for the underdog, because the points in my system show that the favourite compensates their lagging behind, even though they do it only with fixed stars. Take a look my screenshot which I have attached. My computer clock is for my local time in Bulgaria = GMT +3.

I should have written this earlier. The odds are extremely important. For the underdog to upset the favourite, the underdog must lead by more points than the favourite. In other words, the difference in the points must always be compared to the odds. A heavy favourite might win even when behind by a few points.

The bottom line is these 2 predictions were not as successful, although there are some extenuating circumstances. So, thanks for your congratulations, Ed. Still, let's face it: the favourite Italy winning is not a suprise and hence not significant. I will be on the lookout for other matches and publish some more predictions. I also will also be following Copa America.

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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Krishnamurti KP significators table
« on: June 12, 2021, 06:46:39 PM »
Hi Ed,

The table looks nice and easy on the eyes.  :)

Of course I will give another example of how the scoring is calculated. It is the most important part after all. Earlier in this topic, I calculated sublord 1 Venus vs sublord 7 Mercury.

For this example, I will calculate sublord 5 - Jupiter. He is sublord 5 because the 5th Placidus house cusp falls at 20.59 Ari, which the Krishnamurti table shows is ruled by Jupiter (from 20.06.40 to 21.53.20 Aries). I have attached again Simon's table for how the scoring points are assigned and the nature of the houses for (sports) prediction.

The Houses

Positive houses: 1, 3, 6, 10, 11

Negative houses: 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12

1/2 positive houses: 2

I remind that Placidus houses are used for this method, not whole signs. And that there is no 5 degree rule. In other words, the 8th cusp is at 9.00 Can and Mars is at 5.59 Can. It is in the 7th house, not the 8th, even though it is in the 8th sign from the Asc and within 5 degress of the next house cusp. Even if Mars had been at 8.59 Can, conj the 8th cusp by 1 minute, Mars would still have been in the 7th house by this method.

Points are assigned according to the table by Simon.

The Columns

I myself always start from column A, then B, C, D.


Column A

We see that Jupiter is the 1st house lord. Because the House 1 is a positive one and because there are no other planets in the house, the house lord gets + 4 points.

If there had been a planet in Column B of the 1st house, then Jupiter/Column A planet would have gotten 2 points and the other planet 4 points.

Likewise for House 4, only it is negative: Jupiter is the only planet related to House 4, so it gets - 4 points.

If there had been a planet in Column C of the 4th house, then Jupiter/Column A planet would have gotten - 1 point and other planet - 3 points.

+4 - 4 = 0 pts


Column B

Jupiter is not related to any of the house related to that column.

0 pts


Column C

Jupiter is not related to any of the houses related to that column. Otherwise it would have gotten + 3 points in the positive houses: 1, 3, 6, 10, 11, and 1/2 points = 1.5 points in house 2.
It would have gotten - 3 points in the negative houses: 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12

0 pts


Column D

Jupiter is related to the 6th house of this column, that is, Jupiter is in a nakshatra ruled by the planets in the house. Jupiter at 7.54 Aqu is in Shatabhisha ruled by Rahu. Because the 6th house is a positive house, sublord 5 Jupiter gets + 4 points.

+4 pts


Summary:

0+0+0+4 = +4 points for sublord 5 Jupiter.


It is the summary part that is most important and where Planetdance will help users save a lot of time.


Is this example clear, Ed? If not, please ask and I will give another one.

Zagata

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Thank you Jean, it works.

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How do I update, Jean? I tried doing this but could not.

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Wales vs Switzerland - 12 June 2021, Baku, Azerbaidjan 5.00 pm local time (GMT+4)

Always make sure to check the location of the stadium, NOT the city an event is played in. There is a discrepancy in this case. And what is great about Planetdance is that it allows the user to modify the location and save as a new entry.

Odds: 3.98, 3.05 vs 2.20

Switzerland is the favourite and gets the Asc, its lord, MC and and its lord. Wales it the undergog and gets the Dsc, its lord, IC and its lord.

Victory House Technique

Mars is in the 10th and has directional strength = 3 points, while Saturn is in the 4th in its domicile and retrograde = 3 points.

0 points difference


SKY/PKY Yogas

None

Other rules

Neither L1 nor L7 is combust. There is no planetary war either.

Venus in the 9th with mutual reception/generosity with Mercury placed in the neutral 8th is valid. The question is whether to use the planet as lord of a house (the Asc) or its placement (in the 9th - an underdog house). Simon does not explain this, but I go for the latter in such cases.

(-)3 points to the underdog.

Lord 7 Mars rules the planetary hour = another (-) 3 points to the underdog.

Cuspal Strength

Uranus at 18.51 conj the 7th -1.12 = (-)7 to the underdog

Ceres at 19.18 conj the 7th - 45 min = (-) 7 to the underdog


Jean, Ed, I have asteroid Ceres as a selected Object in Planetdance, but it shows it to be at 6.32 Aries in Lahiri. Or do I have the wrong asteroid? It says Ceres in Objects.

Also, asteroid Pallas as it as 1.05 Pis in Lahiri, whereas in selected Objects Planetdance shows it to be at 12.44 Aqu.

Also, asteroid Vesta is at 22.03 Leo in Lahiri, whereas in selected Objects Planetdance shows it to be at 18.58 Vir.

Also, asteroid Juno is at 20.58 Sco in Lahiri, whereas in selected Objects Planetdance shows it to be at 20.04 Sco.

Asteroid Sedna is correct at 4.17 Tau Lahiri.

I have attached a screenshot of the chart and the objects I have selected are seen on the far right side.

Navamsha/D9 Strength and Navamsha combos in D9 Asc or Dsc

No activation

No D9 planetary combos in this chart either.


Krishnamurti Sublords Table Strength of Sublord vs Sublord 7

I am not going to draw the table, but as it will become way too long, and besides the start of this match offers 3 options for this!

Option 1 - expected one (if the match starts between 4.59.39 to 5.00.12 pm.)

Sublord 1 is Jupiter vs sublord 7 Rahu = -4 vs -3 = (-)1 in total for the underdog

But if the match starts at 4.59.38 (22 seconds earlier) it would be:

Sublord 1 Mars vs sublord 7 Rahu = -1 vs - 3 = +2.

But if the match starts 13 seconds later, (5.00.13 pm)  it would be Jupiter vs Jupiter.

When the same planet is sublord 1 and 7, Simon says the technique is not as effective. I skip it in such cases but record the calculation in brackets. In this case it is (-4) = 4 points to the underdog.


Sublord Array

In order from the 1st to the 12th house the sublords are:

Ju
Ve
Sa
Sa
Ra
Sa
Ra
Me
Sa
Sa
Ju
Sa


If L1 Jupiter vs L7 Rahu = yes. Out of all the 12 sublords, only Mercury and Rahu are in the neutral 8th whole sign house, which is acceptable. All the others are in the whole sign houses of the underdog: 7, 9, 12, 4, 5 = (-) 7 points to the underdog.

If Mars is L1 vs L7 Rahu = no sublord array.

If the match starts 13 seconds later, that is, it is sublord 1 Jupiter vs sublord 7 Jupiter, Mercury and are Rahu in the neutral house 8 and all other sublords are in the underdog whole sign houses = (-) 7 again to the underdog.


Navamsha syllables for the 10th house cusp

The 10th cusp is 29.31 Can, which is the sound "Do" in the table. Therefore - none.

Fixed Stars

L1 Moon conj Sirius by long +35 min = +9. It is also conj Canopus, but I don’t use stars that are invisible at the given location.

Dsc conj Menkar A Cetus by longitude -24 min = -7?

Vega on Asc by paran = +12

Mirach on Dsc by a close paran = -7?

The Asc could conj Zuben Elgenubi of Lib, but only if the match starts 1 minute later, so I am skipping it. 


Summary and Prediction

Simon’s system would not use Sirius or the paran of Vega on Asc. As such the result would be:

0 vs 24 in favour of the underdog Wales. That is an uncommon difference of so many points.

I would use L10 Moon conj Sirius as 9 points and Vega very closely on Asc by paran as 12 points = 21 vs 24 points in favour of the underdog.

Alternatively, as I myself am also more comfortable using planets not on the ecliptic on cusps rather than conj planets, if one uses Menkar as malefic hurting the underdog by 7, and discards the Moon-Sirius conjunction = 7+12 from Vega = 19 vs 24 in favour of the dog.

We will see tonight whether Mirach can help Turkey. Note how Mirach is on the IC in Rome by paran, while it is on the Dsc in Baku, Azerbaidjan.   ;)

The bottom line is that Simon’s system shows that the underdog Wales will win by at least 2 goals.

My system also shows that the underdog will win, but it could be very close. Given that the odds are fantastic, I mean almost 4.00 for the underdog, if one wants to play it safe, they can play 1X, that is, they can select that Wales will either win or draw. In this way, they will only lose if the favourite Switzerland wins. The odds for this type of bet, called double chance, are 1.70.

I will try my next post to be shorter, but as you see the system is quite involved.

I am pleased to hear you enjoyed the first post, Ed, and that the new script is underway.  :)

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Thank you, Jean. I removed the declination orb and it now shows me the stars I want with the orb I want. I especially like the fact your software offers such a big list of fixed stars, which is richer than the one shown by commercial softwares Janus or Solar Fire.

I activated the draw the fixed stars function within the wheel but I can’t see their degrees. Am I doing something wrong? I suppose I am using too many stars?

Also, is there a way in Planetdance for the fixed stars module to show only the 7 classical planets and the 12 house cusps rather than all the used planets on the main wheel?

I mean, I don’t want Rahu, Ketu, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron, Ceres, etc to be conj fixed stars because I don’t use them and it increases the list a lot. And yet I can’t remove them from the main wheel because I need to see whether they are conj the house cusps.

Or even as a better alternative, to be an option that allows the user to select fixed stars conj the Asc, MC, Dsc, IC and their sign rulers?

I will now publish my prediction for the Wales-Switzerland football match that will be played tomorrow. I am on a roll today. :)

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Hi everyone,

It is time to put Planetdance in action with Sports Astrology predictions.  :)

Note: About 90% of this method is based on American Jyotish astrologer Simon Chokoisky as described in his book Gambler’s Dharma - Winning with Vedic Astrology. Simon says that the method works with about 70% accuracy. His book contains about 40 example charts of real events that he bet money on and won, and he has the betting slips to prove it. As far as I know, Simon has been into the crypto currencies market for the past 3 years. Anyhow, my point is I have been researching his system and trying to improve its accuracy. As a result, I have had some valuable discoveries that improve the accuracy of the system, but it is a long journey. This will be the first time I share this on a public forum. Lastly, this analysis and prediction includes astrological methods only, that is, it does not take into account any sports factors, such as injuries of key players, suspensions, etc.


Special Note: 

This is being done for research purposes, at least as of writing this. If someone wishes to bet money on these Sports Astrology predictions, a whole other can of worms is opened. By that I mean, one has to know whether winning like this is promised in their nativity. On top of that, there are a number of rules of when NOT to bet. This is examined in detail in Simon’s book. Simon says he lost thousands of dollars and learned the hard way! Please do not assume you are above those rules!

The Match: Turkey vs Italy - 11 June 2021, 9.00 pm local time in Rome, Italy

The first match I will examine and predict is Turkey vs Italy. The odds are 7.00 for Turkey to win, 3.80 for a draw and 1.55 for Italy to win.

In this method, as in the Western method, the favourite is always given the Asc and its lord while the underdog is given the Dsc and its lord. To these are added the 10th house and its lord for the favourite and the 4th house and its lord for the underdog. The favourite is determined by the odds the bookmakers, which are sort of a consensus reality. I am in Europe and have always used decimal odds. So, the smaller odds always show the favourite. E.g. 1.55 for Italy means that if one bets 100 euro, they will get back their 100 euro + earn 55 euro in profit. Likewise, if someone bets 100 euro that the match will end in draw, they will win their 100 back + 280 euro in profit.

I am writing these basic explanations for the opening match and will not be repeating them for any other matches I examine and publish here.


The Method

The method comes from Indian Astrology/Jyotish and hence uses the sidereal Zodiac. Simon used Krishnamurti ayanamsha but then switched to Krishnamurti New, which is pretty much equals Lahiri. Whole Sign Houses are used, as well as the Placidus house system, which Krishnamurti used. Lastly, you must have the exact start of the match. In some cases a difference of 30-40 seconds, which is common in football, will weaken or even change some key points. The method uses the classical 9 planets in Indian Astrology. Trans-Saturnian planets, “Indian” planets Gulika and Upaketu, and a few asteroids are ONLY used if they are conj the house cusps given below within 2.00 degrees. So do not be alarmed when you see a chart full of unknown glyphs.

The favourite/fav gets houses 1, 3, 6, 10, 11.

The underdog gets the same houses from its house, that is, 7, 9, 12, 4, 5.


Victory House Technique

Malefics in the whole sign houses. The malefics are Saturn, Mars, Sun, Rahu/North Node, and Ketu/South Node.

Points range from 2.5 to 4 per planet. If a planet is in its exaltation, its gets +0.5 or even +1. If it also has directional strength/dig bala, it gets +0.5 or +1. If a planet is walking back/”retrograde” it gets an additional 0.5.
The benefics can act as malefics and give points only if they are exaggerated: “retrograde”, exalted, or in its own domicile and combust. Possibly also when they are their own nakshatra lords.

The favourite gets +2.5 points here because the Sun and Rahu are in the 6th and Ketu only is in the 12th.


SKY/PKY Yogas

When there is one or more benefics in the 12th and one or more in the 2nd, from the Asc or from the 7th, i.e. in the 6th and 8th whole sign house, this is called a SKY configuration. It is very favourable and gives 7-9 points depending on the planets and their zodiacal state.
Conversely, when there are malefics in these places, hemming in the Asc or Dsc, a PKY configuration is formed. It is negative, but Simon says it is not as negative as the SKY is positive for sports. It deducts - 7 points.

Here we have a PKY afflicting the Dsc/underdog, because the Sun and Rahu are in the 6th WS and Mars is in the 8th WS. That hurts the underdog. We write it as +7, because when + is given, it shows points to the favourite. When - is given, shows points added to the underdog.
Notice that Ketu and Saturn are hemming in the Asc and forming a PKY. Having said that, Ketu is not real planet, it is not visible in the sky, so this PKY is weaker than the other one and hence afflicts the favourite less. I would give it -4 points.


Other rules

Neither L1 nor L7 is combust. There is no planetary war either (when the relevant significators are conjunct within 1 degree of longitude).


There is mutual reception/generosity between Mercury and Venus, but I would not use it because both are in houses assigned to different teams, not one team. Otherwise it can give 3-4 points, depending on zodiacal state.

Lord 1 or lord 7 does not rule the day (Venus) or planetary hour (Mars). Otherwise I assign 3 points when it rules the hour and 5 points if it rules both. Simon does not mention these.


Cuspal Strength

No planet or asteroid is conjunct the 1st, 7th, 10th, 4th, 6th or 12th house cusp. Otherwise the (classical) planets give 7-9 points depending on orb and nature. Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Gulika, Upaketu or asteroids give 7 points. The orb is 2.30 degrees for planets and 2.00 degrees for the others. It can only be slightly extended (15 to 30 min) if a planet is exalted or “retrograde”, but be careful with this orb extension. No planets are conj cusps, so I will not elaborate here is it will become way too long. There are no stolen cusps either. For the definitions, I refer those interested to Simon’s book.


Navamsha/D9 Strength and Navamsha combos in D9 Asc or Dsc

Planets conj the D9 Asc degree or D9 Dsc degree within 2.30 degrees. Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Chiron, Upaketu, Gulika within 2.00 degrees. Planetdance does not show the degrees of the divisional/varga charts, so I had to calculate them by hand or use other software. If Planetdance can show the degress that would be really useful. There are no contacts/activations in the D9 chart. Again, I am not gonna elaborate here is it will become way too long.

No D9 planetary combos in this chart.


Krishnamurti Sublords Table Strength of Sublord vs Sublord 7

We are only interested in the comparison between sublord of the 1st house vs the sublord of the 7th cusp. This calculation takes time, which is why I registered and asked Ed if he would program it. I already calculated the table and explained in detail how it is done here:

https://jcremers.com/forum/index.php/topic,162.0.htm


The file, which I have attached here as well, is called: Krishnamurti-Chokoisky sublord 1 vs sublord 7 table for Turkey vs Italy.

Here the favourite gets a 10+ point advantage.


Sublord Array

When all 12 sublords from the Krishnamurti table (also given in the above post as well as table) occupy house assigned to one of the teams, that gives a 7-9 point boost. In other words, if the sublords of all the 12 house cusps are situated, by whole sign houses, either in 1, 3, 6, 10, 11, or in 7, 9, 12, 4, 5, that team gets these points.

Since the 8th and 2nd houses are neutral in this method, if say 2 sublords fall there, while the remaining ones fall in the houses of the fav or the dog, the boost can still be counted as valid, though I would give it 7 points, not 9.

Simon also says that if this method does not apply to a chart to examine whether sublord 1, 7, and 10 fall in the houses assigned to either the fav or the dog. For this particular submethod only, treat the 8th as belonging to the fav and the 2nd as belonging to the dog. Whoever has this, gets 3 points.


No sublord array nor the weaker one is present in this chart.


Navamsha syllables for the 10th house cusp

There is a table of the 108 sounds of the Navamsha syllables of the Zodiac. The reasons they are 108 is because one “sign”/zoidion/image is divided into 9 parts as per the Navamsha/Novenaria. Again, the sidereal Zodiac is used. This is an Ancient Hindu tradition.

The MC degree is 25.07 Virgo = the 8th part of Vir - from 23.20 to 26.40 Vir, which corresponds to the “Pe” sound. Neither Italy nor Turkey have that sound as the begining of their name, so no points are assigned. In the rare occasions this happens, a team gets 14-18 points!


Fixed Stars

Simon comes from the Jyotish tradition, where they do not use that many stars. They focus on the nakshatras. Simon gives about 15 fixed stars that work in his experience and says that more research needs to be done. He uses the stars by conjunction by longitude, regardless of whether the star is on the ecliptic. He does not examine the issue whether a fixed star that does not rise on the local horizon can be used either. The ancients were emphatic that it cannot be used.

The orb is 1.00 degrees, preferably even smaller. The smaller the orb, the more powerful the effect. The primary significators are the 1st, 10th, 7th and 4th cusps and their lords. Simon says he focuses mainly on the cusps, and he also uses the stars conj the 6th or 12th cusp, but one has to sort of read between the lines to get the latter explanation.

This chart does not have any activation by the stars give by Simon.

However, the Asc is conj 3 malefic stars in the Scorpion: Lesath (Up Sco)- 4 min, Schaula (M6 Sco) + 30 min, Aculeus (Lam Sco) +40 min. In my research so far, these stars are really malefic. I give about 7 points to a star, but not in this case, because it would overwhelm the entire chart. I guess one could deduct 10 or 12 points from the favourite. If Planetdance can be made to show the fixed stars conjunct the planets and angles within the Planetdance main chart, that would be fantastic. I tried and it shows them but I could not see the degrees of the stars. Also, if Planetdance could show them conjunct just by longitude, not by declination, that would be great.


Lastly, the star Mirach (B Andromeda, of the nature of Venus) is very closely positioned on the IC by paran. Simon does not mention the parans at all, but I have found some of them to be really powerful. By paran, of course, I mean the real ones used by the ancients, not the pseudo ones that Bernadette Brady came up with in which every chart has dozens of parans. I mean degrees and stars of the 36 extra-zodiacal constellations that co-rise at a given location. Parans are extremely sensitive to location! And their orb/influence lasts for mere minutes at that location, not for 1-2 days as with fixed stars. For those that want to know more, I recommend this video called Hellenistic Parans (ignore the fact that Davic Cockhrane uses the wrong year for the chart in question):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yXcoBMDyE

Unfortunately, as far as I know only Sirius software calculates the parans correctly. This is a crucial technique that ancient astrologers used. It would be really useful, not just for Sports Astrology but for helping people, if Planetdance could offer this calculation. It measures the stars by right ascension for the Meridian and by altitude for the horizon. I use Rumen Kolev’s Porphyry Magus software for this, but it only shows the exact orb for the Asc, not for the other angles. For the other angles one must visually check if a major star is on them. See the attached file. I circled Mirach on the IC by paran. Again, this configuration would either be with a much larger orb in other cities in the same country, or it would be valid at some other time of the day. And this is provided the star rises on that location, which it does here as Andromeda is a very northern constellation and Italy is 40N+ latitude.

As to the effect of Mirach, while it is positive in nativities, I am not sure in sports charts. More research is needed. I have seen the alpha star of Andromeda, Alpheratz, as possibly positive though.


Summary and Prediction

Simons’ system would show 19.5 points to the favorite Italy vs 4 points to the underdog Turkey. This is a 15.5 points difference.

If one uses the stars in the Scorpion as afflicting the favourite, as I would, and gives them at least 12 points, then it becomes 19.5 vs 16.5 = a 3 point difference.

Simon says that his research shows that for “soccer” a 3 point difference generally shows a winning difference by 1 goal.

So, according to his system, it would mean that Italy would win by at least 2 goals, to put it conservatively.

According to my system, if Italy wins, they would win by a 1 goal difference.

If the stars in the Scorpion are more malefic, or if Mirach of Andromeda gives a slight boost to the underdog, then the match would end in a draw.

I have to specify that is more important to determine whether a team would win or not, and now not by how many goals/points. Of course, it is more certain if the system shows that a given team has a bigger advantage in points.

What an essay post! My other ones will be shorter, but I wanted to explain the method.

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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Krishnamurti KP significators table
« on: June 10, 2021, 10:51:02 PM »
Thank you, Jean. In fact, I would prefer tennis, or another sports with two outcomes, but these don't have reliable starting times. Your software will be witness to a marriage between Indian and Ancient Astrology  :)

Ed, I will open the thread tomorrow. Thanks for the wheel, but I will be using the version I uploaded earlier, as one must see the cusps.

Zagata

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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Krishnamurti KP significators table
« on: June 10, 2021, 07:53:50 PM »
That is great, Jean. I am glad that others with the necessary skills have come up and further developed your software over the years. I am a classical astrologer myself, but I really like that you have also included the trans-Saturnian planets and some asteroids. I don't use any of them in my horary, electional or natal practice, but they do have a place in the Sports Astrology as I will show.

Sure Ed, if Jean does not mind, I will open the Euro football thread in the Planetdance in Action board. I will do so tomorrow.

Jean, if that board is not ok, just tell me where to open the thread.

Zagata

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Classic, Medieval, Vedic / Re: Krishnamurti KP significators table
« on: June 10, 2021, 04:28:55 PM »
Hi Ed,

My my, 40 years! I have to say when I installed Planetdance I could not believe how many features it had. I thought I saw them, but when I opened a module, many more appeared.  Jean, you have done tremendous work!  8)

Indeed Ed, let's take it one thing at a time.

I wanted to ask you as I am a newbie here: where in the forum to open a thread about predictions for the Euro football championships?

Zagata

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