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Planetdance in Action! / Re: NFL New Season - Predictions
« on: September 23, 2021, 07:26:36 AM »
Panthers (2-0) vs. Texans (1-1)

The Panthers are heavily favoured in this match, coming off two strong wins. The learning of the Packers-Bears game, at least in part, is don't go against the bookies where they have a clear favourite! At least not unless the astrological symbolism is very strong. Another point of learning is to pay more attention to house placement of planets, particular if they are angular, and relate clearly to the rulership of key placements. One complication with this system is the allocation of benefics to the favourite, and malefics to the underdogs. In the Packers-Bears game, Aries rose, and being Mars ruled, suggests an advantage to the underdogs (Mars being natural co-significator of this team). However Mars was angular in the seventh by whole sign house, suggesting the Mars ruled Packers would overcome the Venus ruled Bears.

In this game, the same symbolism applies. Aries rises, giving Mars as sign ruler, to the Panthers. The degree of the ascendant is in the bounds of Jupiter. Mars is close to the seventh house cusp and Sun. This means Mars is combust, ordinarily a sign that Mars would be weakened by the strength of the Sun's rays. Mars is in Libra, ruled by Venus in Scorpio, hence the mutual reception remains in place. This, I think, strengthens the symbolism for the favourites. Mars is in the exaltation of Saturn, approaching trine to Saturn, and is in the bounds of Saturn. Saturn itself is in the bounds of Mercury in the succeedent eleventh house, albeit in its own sign Aquarius.

The seventh house cusp, for the underdogs, is in Libra, ruled by Venus in mutual reception with Mars, in the bounds of Saturn. Venus is in mutual reception by bound with Mercury. The weakness of Venus and Mars, both in detriment, is redeemed by their mutual reception.

The outcome of the match is shown by the fourth house cusp, in Cancer, in the bounds of Mars. The moon is exalted in Taurus, in the bounds of Venus, separating from the trine to Mars and approaching square to Saturn.

On balance, the angular Mars for the favourites wins the day here I believe. Although Saturn trines Mars from its own sign, Mars is dexter to Saturn. The is a right hand trine from Mars so Mars overcomes Saturn as it falls earlier in the zodiac. From Mars' point of view, Saturn is sinister and less able to effect its significations. Saturn is also retrograde and in the bounds of Venus, the natural co-significator of the favourites.

I think part of the learning from the earlier match is that if the underdog's natural significator rules the favourites' angle, unless that planet is in the house of the favourite, its power to affect the game positively for the underdog is diminished.

Therefore, I am going with the bookmakers on this one - the Panthers will win here, despite being at the Texans home ground.

Post-match

The Panthers prevailed in this match, as predicted.

Panthers 24 Texans 9

Bookies 1 Astrologer 1 (both predictions were correct)

Success ratio:

Bookies 4/6 (66%)
Astrologer 4/6 (66%)

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Planetdance in Action! / Re: NFL New Season - Predictions
« on: September 21, 2021, 06:41:24 AM »
Packers vs. Lions

These teams meet on Monday night both having gone 0-1 in week one. The Packers suffered a humiliating loss at the hands of the New Orleans Saints. The Lions were beaten by the '49ers. The match is being played at the Packers' home ground in Wisconsin. The bookmakers heavily favour the Packers as do most pundits.

One of the most notable features of this game is that it is played immediately following the full moon, which is rising in Green Bay. This is also a full moon in the final degrees of Pisces, in the bounds of Saturn. The moon may enter Aries during play, as it changes sign at 22:12:45. It moves from the bounds of Saturn to the bounds of Mars at the same time.

The Packers, as favourites, are symbolised by Mars ruled Aries. Mars is in the bounds of Saturn in the Venus ruled sign of Libra. Venus is positioned in the bounds of Mercury, but in the Mars ruled sign of Scorpio. Hence there is a mutual reception between Mars and Venus. It should be noted that there is a mutual reception by bounds for Venus and Mercury.

The natural significators of the Packers, being favourites, are Venus and Jupiter. Jupiter is in Saturn ruled Aquarius in the bounds of Mars. It is trine Mercury in Libra. Venus is in Scorpio. L1 is Mars and the ascendant is in the bounds of Venus.

The natural significators of the Lions, as underdogs, are Mars and Saturn. Mars is in the bounds of Saturn; Saturn is in the bounds of Venus. L7 is Venus. The descendant is in the bounds of Mercury.

The moon is void of course until it enters Aries, when its next aspect is then an opposition to Mars. It goes on to conjunct Mars' lot (Courage), trine Saturn's lot (Nemesis) and sextile Saturn.

The outcome of the match is signified by L4, Moon, and the bounds of the IC Mars. Moon is VOC in the bounds of Saturn.

Fortune and Daimon are in the bounds of Mercury. The bound lord of the day ruler (Moon) is Saturn and the bound lord of the hour ruler (Venus) is Mercury.

What are we to make of the symbolism? Firstly, this is not a walkover for the Packers. The Lions have their fair share of astrological symbolism on their side. In many respects, their signficators outweigh those of the Packers. The Packers' strongest suit is the bounds placement of Saturn (Venus) and the mutual reception between Venus and Mars. However, if we switch by degree, Mars moves to its own bounds in Scorpio, and Venus moves to the descendant and the bounds Mercury. This potentially strengthens the hand of Mars in the game, as it goes to its own sign and bounds, and Venus, although it moves to it's own sign and is strengthened there, is placed at the mercy of the whims and wiles of Mercury.

Mercury has a significant role in this match. Mercury symbolises upsets and surprises, and the inherent unpredictability of the manifest world. In my view, the key symbolism here is the relationship between Venus and Mercury, including their mutual reception by bound. I'm going to go out on a limb on this game and say that the Lions will win in a topsy turvy match.

Game chart



Dynamic Angles Listing



Post-match

The Packers won this match with a dominant second half performance. The Lions led 17-10 at half-time. There will be a lot to learn from my review of this match analysis!

Packers 35 Lions 17

Bookies 1 Astrologer 1 (the bookmakers were correct)

Success ratio:

Bookies 3/5 (60%)
Astrologer 3/5 (60%)

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Planetdance in Action! / Re: NFL New Season - Predictions
« on: September 20, 2021, 06:36:15 PM »
Thanks for your comments. I'm disappointed about the Chiefs vs. Ravens match. It was a tough one to predict. I'm going to have a look at the methodology and see if there's anything to learn. Mercury is an interesting symbol in this context. I think I picked up on the possibility of a Ravens upset, but the Venus symbolism seemed to be too strong to overcome the Trickster.

The Packers vs. Lions prediction is a bit of a long shot if I'm honest. I think the match could go either way. The match might be won in the final minutes/seconds of the final quarter. Or even in overtime.

Thanks for your interest.

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 06:41:04 PM »
Hi Sindy and Jean - this seems to be fixed for me now. Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 03:19:41 PM »
Thanks Jean - yours is the more sophisticated alternative I'm sure! I'm glad this one is fixed now. Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 02:32:53 PM »
Fix:

h = gethousesys(0);

if (h = -2)
       r = findr1;
    else
        r = findr1 - asc;
    getcirclepos(mx, my, height * .26, r, posx, posy);

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 02:22:12 PM »
Hi Jean - I set No Houses using the Toolbar with the icons. I got the problem that Sindy has. It seems to be isolated to one off removal of the house system, rather than setting the default as No Houses through the Options menu.

My guess is the problem line is 154: getcirclepos(mx, my, height * .26, findr1 - asc, posx, posy);

Where asc is only defined in terms of planets[ASCENDANT]. This is probably vulnerable in the case above where this is not defined?

Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 11:53:24 AM »
Hi Jean - I found it now - choose None from house list menu. This seems to be the problem. See screenshot. You will notice the VSPs are not in the correct longitude position in the wheel, although the actual points are listed in the correct positions. Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 11:21:56 AM »
Hi Jean - I don't know - the most likely explanation in my view is the no houses option. I couldn't test it because I couldn't get my wheel to show no houses. Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 11:13:34 AM »
That's right Jean - see my post above yours. Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 11:08:34 AM »
Hi Jean - I think the most likely explanation for this is that Sindy is not using houses Jean, so the points are oriented to 0 Aries rather than the ascendant. As far as I can see, the actual points are calculated correctly in longitude, it's the orientation within the wheel display that is not right. Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Venus Star Point module
« on: September 19, 2021, 11:03:03 AM »
Hi Jean - I think what Sindy means that list of aspects to the 5 star points is not correct. For example in the second chart above, the Sun is listed conjuncted the e point, but it is shown in the wheel most closely to the c point. Ed

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Planetdance in Action! / Re: NFL New Season - Predictions
« on: September 19, 2021, 06:39:26 AM »
Chiefs vs. Ravens

This game will be one of the high profile match ups of week two. The bookmakers favour the Chiefs, but as I write the odds are drifting on the Chiefs and tightening on the Ravens. This means the bookmakers are giving the Ravens a better chance of triumphing over the Chiefs. The Chiefs won in week one, and the Ravens lost in a very tight match against the Las Vegas Raiders (see prediction above).

To go against the bookies, the symbolism has to be very clearly in favour of the underdogs. What does this match chart hold for both teams?

In brief, my view is that the Chiefs will win here. There is not enough for the Ravens to prosper. The key is the powerful position of Venus, natural co-significator of the favourite, in its own bound, angular in the dynamic seventh house, in a mutual reception with Mars by sign. Mars is in the bounds of Saturn. This strengthens the symbolism for the Ravens, because Saturn is the natural significator of the 'dog. Mars rules the first house, the house of the favourite. Venus, the natural co-significator of the underdog, rules the seventh house, the house of the underdog. However, Saturn, the bound lord of Mars, although angular and in Aquarius, one of its own signs, is in the bounds of Venus, and all the links between the bounds positions point back to Venus, angular in its own bound. This is decisive in my view, and leads me to think that the Chiefs will win the match.

The outcome of the match is symbolised by the fourth house cusp. This is in Cancer, ruled by the Moon, in the bounds of Mercury. In many circumstances, Mercury, as bound lord of the fourth, would suggest an unpredictable outcome that might favour the underdogs. However Mercury is in Libra, ruled by Venus in its own bound, and is itself in the bounds of Venus. Both Daimon and Fortune are in the bounds of the benefics, favouring the Chiefs. The Moon is in the bounds of Jupiter. It will move, towards the end of the match, into the bounds of Mercury. However, I am not sure that this is decisively in favour of a Ravens' upset because of Mercury's position in the bounds of Venus.

So - the Chiefs to win this one. I think the bookmakers have this right.

The official NFL site has an interesting set of information about the match at:

https://www.nfl.com/games/chiefs-at-ravens-2021-reg-2

The data shows that to win the game, the Ravens need to run the ball, while the Chiefs need their passing game to be on form. Neither defense is particularly strong, suggesting that the Ravens running game could be decisive, but only if their defense is able to contain Mahomes' passing game.

See game chart attached below.

Post-match

The underdogs won! By a point. This will be a game to learn from.

Chiefs 35 Ravens 36

Bookies 0 Astrologer 1 (neither predicted correctly)

Success ratio:

Bookies 2/4 (50%)
Astrologer 3/4 (75%)

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Planetdance in Action! / Re: NFL New Season - Predictions
« on: September 15, 2021, 08:32:11 AM »
Thanks for your comments. I'm not sure I would say that I know the result before the end of the match! Astrology is never that certain. I find having a go at a prediction adds further excitement to watching the match!

Ed

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Planetdance for windows / Re: Setting up a new house system on planetdance
« on: September 14, 2021, 05:53:11 PM »
No problem Tatyana - the forum is a good place to learn. I'm glad that we've been able to clarify the system you are using. If you want to report on your experiences using Sripati, you could post something in the Planetdance in Action section. Thanks to Chris also for his input.

All the best. Ed

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