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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2021, 10:21:51 PM »
Thank you for contributing, Ed. I want to add that the underdog Wales had Uranus and asteroid Ceres conjunct the 7th cusp - indications in their favour. They give 7 points each.

They are not seen in the Vedic chart, but Uranus is seen in the main wheel. The longitude of Ceres is incorrect in Planetdance though, along with several other asteroids.

The favourite Switzerland had Vega on the Asc in close paran/co-rising with the Asc degree on that latitude. That is a huge boost for the favourite. Without it and Zuben Elgenubi, they had no major indications. But we have to remember that the fixed stars are the 8th sphere - above that of the planets.

If Planetdance could calculate parans, that would be fantastic.  :)


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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2021, 06:36:00 AM »
HI Zagata - I get 19 Aries 25 (Krishnamurti) for Ceres for the Wales vs. Switzerland game. What longitude is your chart showing? Ed

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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2021, 10:22:44 PM »
Hi Ed,

It is the same: 18.18.53 Aries in Lahiri. But Planetdance shows Ceres to be at 6.32.18 Aries.

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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2021, 08:19:54 PM »
Hi everyone,

Finally, it is elimination phase of the Euro 2020 football championship and it is time for more of my Sports Astrology predictions. I will be very brief with the analysis as you by now know involved the system is. For those interested in the calculations, Planetdance does almost all of them for you thanks to the tireless work of Ed. I have only included the charts of the main wheel as I can only attach up 4 files per post. Thus this first one will deal with the first 4 matches.

Wales 5.34, 3.34 vs Denmark 1.86

Asc lord Venus is afflicted by being conjunct Gulika within 1 degree. Also, Ceres is on the Dsc, further helping the underdog Wales. Dsc lord Mars is possibly afflicted by conj the star Asellus Australis.

It is also important to know that if the match starts 50 seconds later, the Asc will be conj Zuben Eschamali, which will help the favourite and would make the match closer, although I would still favour the underdog.

Prediction: underdog Wales to win without extra time. However, given the great odds, one might want to play it safer and bet on 1X with odds 2.00. In other words, the bet would be for Wales to win or draw.


Italy 1.49 vs Austria 4.28, 8.33

Here the opposite is true, that is, because Venus is L7 and still conjunct Gulika, this time the underdog's significator is weakened. This time Mars is L1 and is possibly afflicted by Asellus Australis.

Prediction: Favourite Italy to win. I don't like the low odds in this match, and I like it even less when unpredictable Mercury (turned direct a few days ago) is conj the Asc or Dsc.


Netherlands 1.70  vs Czech Republic 3.96, 5.49

I would stay from betting in this match because Neptune is still stationary and is conjunct the IC, although in the 5th sign. Uranus conj the 6th cusp helps the fav, Neptune R conj the IC helps the dog, but not as much.
There are stars in the Scorpion, Pegasus and Perseus conj the angles, which create a number of variables.

Prediction: Favourite Netherlands to win narrowly, or possibly in extra time or after penalties.



Belgium 2.5 vs Portugal 3.20, 3.22

Dog Portugal has a full SKY and 1/2 PKY is their favour, while the fav Belgium has only 1/2 PKY in theirs and +5 from the sublord table. However, Upaketu is conjunct the D9 Asc, and the later the match starts, the strong this 12 point indication will be for the dog.

Prediction: The underdog Portugal to win. If Upaketu does hurt the favourite and act like Ketu, like Simon Chokoisky says, then the underdog Portugal should win easily and by 2 or more goals because with this indication this match becomes the one where the imbalance in points between the teams is greatest. Even if Upaketu does not afflict the fav, my prediction is still for the Portuguese team to win, but not easily.

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2021, 08:47:36 PM »
Continuing with the Sports Astrology predictions for the remaining 4 matches of the last 16 phase of the Euro 2020 football championship.

Croatia 6.97, 3.80 vs Spain 1.61

Saturn afflicts the D9 Asc and the underdog Croatia leads in the sublords and victory house. Favourite Spain basically have just minor indication going for them.

Prediction: Underdog Croatia to win outright. However, if the match starts 36 later, Saturn will be out of orb, depriving the dog of 14 points! So I would follow this match live to see when it starts. Again, given the big odds, to be on the safe side one could bet 1X with odds of 2.42. I say this also because Spain was behind in points vs Sweden and Poland, but because they were such huge favourites, Spain did not lose but drew both matches at home.


France 1.54 vs Switzerland 4.07, 7.62

I have not checked this match because if it starts only 61 seconds later, the Asc/Dsc will change and so will the sublords. I do like Pollux conj Dsc boosting the dog Switzerland with the current Sag-Gem Asc/Dsc degree. Also, if the match starts a little later, Pluto R would hurt the favourite France.


England 2.56 vs Germany 3.32. 3.03

I don't like the chart with so many variables. If the match starts 20 seconds later, the D9 Asc will change and D9 Dsc will be conj Gulika, helping the favourite by 12 points. But if the match starts 70 seconds later, then Ceres would be conj the Dsc, helping the dog Germany by 7 points.
Deneb is conj the IC by longitude and 3 stars are in paran to the Asc/Dsc degree. I am not comfortable with these indications. I don't know whether Deneb works for sports matches and with longitude only. If it does, it would help the dog Germany. On the other hand, Rasalhague is exactly on the Asc, which would help the fav England.

Prediction: This match could go either way. No wonder the odds are so close. Therefore I can't predict this one with any amount of certainty.


Sweden 2.40 vs Ukraine 3.21, 3.39

Sedna is conj the 6th cusp, hurting the favourite by 7-9 points, as per Simon's discovery after he published his book. However, the fav Sweden has an 11 point advantage from the sublords. I don't know whether Rastaban conj the Asc has relevance (possibly negative for the favourite). The fav Sweden have Ma-Ju D9 combo, also adding 4 points.

Prediction: Favourite Sweden to win

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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2021, 08:59:03 PM »
Thanks for the predictions Zagata - I will read them in detail later. Good luck with the results!

Best wishes. Ed

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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2021, 06:13:36 PM »
Denmark (F) vs. Wales (U)

See the screenshot below for the summary table for the match.

Denmark is favoured by bookmakers in this match. Hence their significators are associated with the first house cusp:

L1 = Venus
SL1 = Mercury

Wales is the underdog. Hence their significators are associated with the seventh house cusp:

L7 = Mars
SL1 = Mercury

The sublord table shows the score breakdown is evenly distributed with neither side getting a boost. However L1 is a sublord itself for the 10th house, a house associated with the favourite, and an indicator of their status as favourites. This may indicate, however, that the Danes expect an easy win. Venus is L1 (F), L8 (N) and L12 (U).  Venus itself is placed in Placidus 9 (U) and WSH 10 (F). Venus is cuspal P 9, but this house is not considered in close cuspal conjunctions.

Mars is L2 (N), L6 (F) and L7 (U). Mars is placed alongside Venus in P 9 (U) and WSH 10 (F).

The placement of L1 and L7 in the same houses suggests a closer match than the odds indicate.

Indicators that suggest that the underdog may triumph include:

Two malefic planets placed in houses favourable to the underdog - Sun in WSH 9 and Saturn in dignity in WSH 4. The Sun is the exaltation lord of the descendant. The favourite only has one planet in its favoured houses - Mars, which happens to be L7. This suggests Wales have the toughness to master the Danes.

In the sublord array, the underdog is favoured with two planets, Saturn (WSH 4) and Jupiter (WSH 5). Unfortunately for the Welsh, their cusp ruler Mars is not itself a sublord. The Danes are favoured with sublord Venus in the WSH 10. The joint sublord ruler Mercury is in one of the neutral houses with the malefic node, suggesting an upset.

Fixed Stars:

The second screenshot shows the position with fixed stars. There are no major fixed stars conjunct the angles. However, Sun and Mars are co-angular with degrees associated with the rising, culminating  or setting of stars.

Sun rises with Castor's co-rising degree
Mars rises with Procyon's co-rising degree
Sun sets with Alphard's co-setting degree
Mars culminates with Praesepe's co-culminating degree.

Sun and Mars, both malefic planets and associated with the seventh house cusp, in these positions, mark Wales as the potential winner despite the bookmakers fancying the Danes. The stars are ones that mark out the match as particularly hard fought, with Sun and Mars symbolising Wales' determination to triumph.





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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2021, 08:11:52 PM »
Folks,

I just learned a very valuable lesson.  :) Simon says that one should not bet when planets are stationary because they can flip one's predictions on their heads. For whatever reason, I was under the impression that this referred to stationary planets that play a key role in a match, such as being a significator. Well, Neptune does not play ANY role and yet look what happened: Wales lost 4-0. It should have been the reverse as the underdog Wales lead by many points.

To be completely forthright, I bet money on Wales not to lose. Aside from the station of Neptune, the Moon was not transiting my natal 8th house and yet not only did my bet lose, it lost by a huge margin!

As a result of this, and because Neptune's first station will continue for the next few days, which will cover all 8 matches, I am no longer comfortable with the predictions I made. I will be following the matches to see whether more predictions are flipped upside down, but will not be betting money on any of them.

Thank you Ed for the parans. I will be checking them and waiting for the quarterfinals.

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2021, 09:21:02 PM »
Hi Zagata - an honest appraisal. Let's see what happens with the other matches. The Danes were heavily favoured, so a difficult match for underdogs to overturn.

All the best. Ed

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2021, 11:51:01 PM »
Hi Ed,

It has nothing to do with the odds. I can show you much bigger odds/smaller chance for the underdog to win and the latter doing so.
By the way, the match started 9 seconds later, so Zuben Eshamali was not conj the Asc and thus not additionally helping the favourite Denmark.

Speaking of odds, notice how the heavy favourite Italy did not win against Austria in the normal 90 min duration - another flipped prediction. With Simon's system the points were 7.5 to 0 in favour of the favourite Italy.

With identical odds and leading by about 15 points against Turkey earlier this tournament, according to Simon's system, favourite Italy won 3-0.

These stations are something to behold and keep in mind!
« Last Edit: June 27, 2021, 02:19:51 PM by Zagata »

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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2021, 08:07:59 PM »
Hi again,

Croatia came back from 3-1 down to level 3-3 in the last minutes of the match. So it can be said that this is the first prediction that came out. In other words, this could be an indication that the station of Neptune is basically over. If so, then Sweden should win against Ukraine.

By the way, does anyone have the exact minute and second the Croatia-Spain match started? It is important for Saturn's position in the D9 chart.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2021, 08:11:25 PM by Zagata »

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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2021, 05:25:05 PM »
Continuing my Sports Astrology predictions for the Euro 2020 football matches, I will now examine the first 2 quarterfinals played today and will analyse tomorrow's ones in my next post.

Switzerland 6.05, 3.95 vs Spain 1.65

Spain is the heavy favourite here. They are supported by Ceres conj  the 6th cusp, while the underdog Switzerland has Chiron conj the 4th cusp but 5th sign, which reduces that boost. The Swiss team also has the support of sublords 1, 7 and 10 being in dog houses. Overall, using Simon' system, the points are equal, which would suggest a draw. Because of the big difference in odds odds though, the favourite Spain should win.

Adding the fixed star parans, the fav is supported by Altair, while the dog is supported by Alpheratz and afflicted by Betelgeuse and Scheat. Therefore my prediction is that Spain will not only win in normal 90 minutes time but will most likely win by 2 or more goals.


Belgium 3.54, 3.07 vs Italy 2.43

The underdog Belgium has SKY and half PKY for them, while the favourite Italy has half PKY for them. Belgium has 1 more planet in victory houses, but Italy crushes Belgium in the sublords by 16 points! Moreover, Italy has Mercury conj the 6th cusp, which generally supports the favourite. Therefore Simon's system shows that Italy will not only win in normal time, but is likely to do so by 2 or more goals.

Adding the stars and parans and other considerations, the favourite is afflicted by Facies but L1 is the hour lord, while the underdog is afflicted by Algol and Scheat on the Dsc. This adds more points to the fav Italy and confirms that Italy will win in normal time and will more likely do so by 2 or more goals difference.

N.B. The 16 point difference in sublords is valid ONLY if the match does not start at 9.00.49 pm + with Krishnamurti ayanamsha, or 9.01.12 pm with Lahiri. Thus if the match starts 49 or 72 seconds later, the favourite would not only lose this 16 point difference in sublords but will incur a 2 point deficit in the sublords method.

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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2021, 05:43:46 PM »
Thanks Zagata - an interesting couple of predictions. A useful contrast with the approach I have used based on the tropical zodiac and the seven traditional planets only.

Good luck. Ed

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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2021, 07:06:30 PM »
Hi Ed,

Thank you, the same to you.  :)

Here are my predictions for the remaining quarterfinals of Euro 2020:

Czech Republic 3.97, 3.26 vs Denmark 2.15

This is a very tricky match due to two factors: exact start of the match and the fact that the unstable planets - Moon and Mercury - are conjunct relevant house cusps. Depending on how they are interpreted, it will make a huge difference.

If the match starts up to 8.00.12 pm then my prediction is that the fav Denmark will win. And if the Moon additionally afflicts the dog Czech Republic, then Denmark will win by 2 or more goals.

If the match starts 13 seconds+ later then instead of the same sublord Venus, the dog Czech Rep. will have a 13 point difference in the sublords department. My prediction then is that the dog Czech Republic will win. However, if the Moon actually afflicts the dog, then it will eat up the advantage of the dog and my prediction would change to a draw. At any rate, the odds for the Czech team not lose are 1.75 if one wants to play it safer.

Keep in mind that another match (Wales vs Switzerland) played at this same location/Baku actually started 107 seconds later. For example, Switzerland vs Spain just started 11-12 seconds later, in Russia - another Eastern country.


Ukraine 9.03, 4.36 vs England 1.46

The same Sagittarius Asc on ths one, as for Czech Rep vs Denmark and Belgium vs Italy, giving a 7 point advantage to the dog (Ukraine here) from SKY and PKY. Ukraine further leads in victory house and sublords 1,7,10. The fav England does not have indications save for half a PKY hurting the dog as well as Asc conj the star Vega by longitude. Thus the dog has an advantage in points.

However, whether this is enough for Ukraine to win outright is difficult to say given that they are the biggest underdog according to the odds. Having said that, the later the match starts, the closer the IC will be to Uranus, suggesting some upset and unpredictability. Without Uranus, my prediction is that the dog will either lose by 1 goal or manage to draw in normal 90 minutes time.

With Uranus boosting Ukraine, my prediction is for a draw. If it ends in a draw, I would say Ukraine would be the favourite to eliminate England in penalties or extra time. The odds for Ukraine not to lose are 2.95.

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Re: Euro 2020 Football Predictions with Indian and Ancient Astrology
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2021, 08:51:07 PM »
Folks,

I thought the station of Neptune was over. I mean today is the 7th day. Out of all the techniques in this method, there is no other explanation for why it failed. The fact that the Switzerland vs Spain match started 11-12 seconds later did not change anything. Spain should have won and yet they did not. This again makes me uncomfortable about the other predictions.