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Münchner Rythmenlehre
« on: August 04, 2021, 11:41:51 AM »
I am really very enthusiastic about the program and just miss the opportunity to walk the ascendant in years through the houses instead of the signs. I am referring to the Munich rhythm theory, where the ascendant walks through each house for 7 years in both directions. It is a very accurate method, but a little complicated in detail.
Excuse my bad English.
Here are two links in English that describes the method.

https://archaeus.art/2005/09/30/the-horoscope-in-the-light-of-the-seven-rhythm-example-the-kennedy-clan/

https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/de/M%C3%BCnchner_Rhythmenlehre

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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2021, 07:59:24 PM »
Hi Volker - thanks for using the forum. I seem to remember that we had a similar request to this, but I'm not sure what happened to the idea. I think Jean did the work if it was implemented. I think this would be easy to do from a coding point of view anyway. I am aware of this system but I'm not very familiar with Wolfgang Doebereiner's techniques. Is it worth thinking about a full module using his ideas.

By the way, your English is excellent.

All the best. Ed


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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2021, 06:42:35 AM »
It doesn't have to be the complete Doebereiner method, rhythmic releases in general would be enough for the beginning.
The Huber School uses 6 years per house with Koch houses and the Astropolarity-method 6.33 + 4.33 years with Placidus houses. Doebereiner uses 10 years also.
It would be nice to be able to determine the times per house by yourself. To get a list with the trigger date and main aspects. Then everyone can experiment for himselve and see what works best for him.

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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2021, 07:38:23 AM »
there is already various - huber and various - hankar, did you see?
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2021, 06:46:56 AM »
I looked at the Huber module. Basically, half the work is already done. I would like a method-independent module where you have such lists for both directions and where you can freely choose the time factor. So you can try several methods. What would be useful is the display of the trigger point in the horoscope and the display of the respective age in the list.

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2021, 01:02:00 PM »
Hi Volker - I am doing you a test module, based on Jean's Huber.ab. We can work towards what you are suggesting. I will send you a beta version. Ed

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2021, 01:46:33 PM »
Thanks Ed. I feel quite lazy myself but i think this could be a good addition.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2021, 11:53:54 AM »
Since I haven't got anything to test yet, I'm assuming that it will still be programmed. Maybe there is still time for suggestions: release wreath around the zodiac, as in the huber module, but clockwise outside and counterclockwise inside. Above the tables, a trigger scale for right and left rhythm would be great. I watched various programs on the market. The term "Münchner Ryhmenlehre" is definitely protected, so it is better to use the expression "diverse rhythms" or something similar.
Link to the school's original program, which is really great, but not affordable for me and the most of us. But a source of inspiration.
https://www.doebereiner-bertrand.de/rhythmen

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2021, 08:08:00 PM »
Hi Volker - I'm working on this in the background. Is the backwards motion from the time of birth in to the pre-birth period (like a modern converse direction), or is the backwards motion just through the zodiac but forwards from the birth time. I'm not sure if that's too clear. Let me know if you want me to try and explain in more detail. Ed

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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2021, 08:15:19 PM »
@volker, Is it the term "Münchner Ryhmenlehre" that is protected or the method? How do you know?
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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2021, 07:15:19 AM »
From the time of birth, only once left around the zodiac from the ascendant (inner rhythm) and then right around (outer rhythm).Huber-school uses the left, the others the right or both. The right describes what comes into your life from the 4th quadrant, the left how you react to it physically ( 1st Q.) and mentally 2nd Q.). Here is a drawing: https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/de/Datei:RegendoerpMRL.gif
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2021, 07:15:48 AM »
The method is certainly free, it was developed by Frank Glahn at that time (80 years ago) and Doebereiner and Huber only adopted it. Almost all astro programs from Germany and Switzerland offer this method. But I think the terms are protected: "Münchner Rhythmenlehre, Huber Alterspunkt, Phänomenrhythmus, Weg der Aphrodite, Fügungsrhythmus, APL- Pyramidenen-Rhythmus" ... you have to be careful. Today everyone likes to sue everyone.
Here is a quote from Astrowiki: "Glahn, who studied English-language theosophical astrology extensively, adopted the seven-year period for the signs of the zodiac (7 years per sign of the zodiac) in his system of the circle of life. Engelhardt, the naturopath, who conducted courses on the Glahn method and also sent teaching letters, recommended using the seven-year period in addition to the Glahn period of 8.33 years per house (also based on the ascendant for seven years per house, houses according to Placidus) Rhythmisation) was taken up in Germany in the 1950s by Wolfgang Döbereiner's theory of rhythm in Munich and at the end of the 60s by the Huber School, which allows an age point to wander from the ascendant through the first house system. "
Source: https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/de/Frank_Glahn
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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2021, 07:50:55 AM »
I had a look at their homepage, they certainly are not afraid to ask money for everything.
I did not see some explicit statement about copyright so as far as i'm concerned i don't see the need for disguise.

Btw the other method is not hankar as i mentioned, but various - at mann lifecycles, it similar to huber.
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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2021, 08:18:31 AM »
Example of the trigger table from Astroplus.
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Re: Münchner Rythmenlehre
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2021, 12:23:41 PM »
Just out of curiosity.
Is there any progress or problems ?
I hope there is further interest in the module development.