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Jean

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Re: Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin ?
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2021, 01:08:59 AM »
Results are what matter for me though. It is now working as your theory says it should, i'm surprised you disagree, i think your formula is flawed. If you are not satisfied i'm happy to remove the function.
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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2021, 07:05:25 AM »
OK, I have read your posts. Both make sense. I can only say, with this exception that I posted, the supplemental horoscopes are correct after all. What Jean says, of course, I have also thought about, but it would not be the original method.
My suggestion: install both calculation methods, so everyone can choose and test as it pleases him.
I continue to work with what I have now.
If I enter the supplementary horoscopes in Astroplus and calculate back, I get identical original horoscopes.

https://we.tl/t-iPPpNPco2Z

So please do not remove anything. Please.


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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2021, 07:34:38 AM »
You ask me to implement a method that does something. You give me a formula that does not work, i explained why it is wrong, it's simple math. I make the correct formula that does what its supposed to do and then you tell me it's not right. I don't like to be accused of making things up, i'm just trying to do it correctly. Obviously the other method doesn't do it correctly.
Make up your mind. If you are not satisfied 'm not gonna publish it anymore, i don't want methods that work only half in my software.
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Re: Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin ?
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2021, 07:59:28 AM »
Sorry, I just wanted to help!

"CA A C B CB
let's say A = 10 and B = 20
now we get
CA A   C  B   CB
0   10 15 20 30
but if we take the combine between CA and C we get 7.5, not the 10 from A."

To check we take CA in the combin with B = A !!!

That is the Primordial Method.

Mr. Lang, please correct me if I'm wrong !!!!



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Re: Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin ?
« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2021, 08:57:39 AM »
One last word.
The method of Lang( with the full distance A-B) refers to the partners.
Your method with the half distance (which I had also considered as a supplement) refers to the combin A+B.
Both complement each other. I would be happy to have both methods.
I have always seen it that way.
Maybe I am wrong.
I do not want to say more about it to prevent quarrel.

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« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2021, 09:55:26 AM »
if this method is not the desired method i'm gonna remove it and be done with it, spent way too much time trying to implement something that's badly documented.
If you copy that script to c:\planetdance\ab you can still use it after the next update.

You can change the formula used in the script yourself, see below. There are jd.. lo.. and la.. variables, for julian day, place longitude and place latitude.
for instance, if you remove all the ' / 2' parts, you have the former method where distance between A and B is not cut in half.

CA A [C] B CB

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  jdCA = jdA - (jdB - jdA) / 2;
  loCA = loA - (loB - loA) / 2;
  laCA = laA - (laB - laA) / 2;
  jdCB = jdB + (jdB - jdA) / 2;
  loCB = loB + (loB - loA) / 2;
  laCB = laB + (laB - laA) / 2;

I uploaded a version which has a choice between not dividing by two (one) and dividing by two so you can experiment, same link as before. Put it in c:\planetdance\ab and open by Application run.
See if you can do something with it.
And excuse me for being so grumpy, i think i was rather unpatient with this, i've done better :(
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Re: Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin ?
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2021, 10:04:36 PM »
Dear Jean,

thank you for Your efforts, and the things you installed. I didn´t yet had time to make a deep test with the first Version (3 of september?), but a superficial test worked well, and Volker said also, that his deep test give correct details. So i think there is a working solution for the Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin. Great!

Whats more about the different approaches of supplementing (locking from two different viewpoints into the mirror ;D), I agree with Volker:
The method of Lang( with the full distance A-B) refers to the partners.
Your method with the half distance (which I had also considered as a supplement) refers to the combin A+B.
Both complement each other. I would be happy to have both methods.

(To be honest, I would have still a lot more applicatians of combins  ;) )

So have a good time, and thank You again for giving away new astrological possibilities!

best wishes

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Re: Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin ?
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2021, 06:51:38 AM »
Hello Jean, I have downloaded the module and had a quick look.
I would like to thank you for making this available to us.
Thank you very much.

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Re: Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin ?
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2021, 08:46:17 AM »
I though it didn't work?
If it does work, what i would like is implement the original one only, i don't want to make it too overwhelming, i think you call this supplementary? Is this the one or the two variant? And i'd appreciate a bit of a help text for it.
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2021, 10:06:28 AM »
I have tested it a bit and I am quite confident.
I can not say if it works 100%.
At the moment I am in poor health and have to take it easy.
I have asked Mr. Lang to test it with a safe example and to write the help text, because he invented the method.
Variant one is the original method.
Thank you.

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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2021, 01:14:28 PM »
Hope it's not too bad, hope you get better.

Will await your input.
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« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2021, 02:51:01 PM »
So I'm happy with the results of the new module.
I will continue to use it exactly as it is.
Thanks.

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Re: Ergänzungscombin - Supplementary Combin ?
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2021, 06:27:13 PM »
September 8
- Revised File - Composite - Complementary Combine, renamed it to Supplementary Combine and added help from the author.
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