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Lisha

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Progressing Solar return angles?
« on: January 26, 2022, 08:40:55 PM »
Hi, i was wondering if there is an option to be able to progress the Solar return angles? 
I'm wanting to do this as a predictive technique to see when the angles conjunct or oppose a solar return or natal planet.

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2022, 08:55:39 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean by 'progress the Solar return angles'.
And 'when the angles conjunct or oppose a solar return'
What angles?

Btw a solar return of course has the same longitude as the sun. Maybe you can give an example.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2022, 09:26:22 PM »
I think its similar to progressing a natal chart (secondary progressions). With regards to predictive techniques, using the Solar return, you can progress the Asc/MC to see when they progress forward during the year to conjunct SR planets.

Is this something that is an option in your software?

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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2022, 09:32:35 PM »
Ah you mean Horoscope - Progression - Solar Arc. The penny dropped a bit late again  ;D
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2022, 10:16:32 PM »
No a solar arc is different as that progresses all the planets forward 1° per year.

Horoscope - return - solar - gives me my solar return chart for the year.  I was looking for an option to be able to progress the solar return Ascendant and midheaven angles throughout the solar return year, to see when they come into contact with planets in the solar return chart.

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2022, 11:26:16 PM »
Maybe do horoscope - list on a solar?
There is also time - tools - lifetime solar returns.
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2022, 07:09:50 AM »
If I understand correctly, you want to see when the axes, if they are within the year where the solar is valid, hit planets and activate them.
There are daily progressions with 1 degree per day. Kühr used that with Naibod.
Morin used this for solar horoscopes with 1 degree per Day.
I think this is what you mean ?
However, I have not yet found daily directories in PD.

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2022, 09:21:39 AM »
Hi - there's something along these lines in Medieval Traditional Chart under the Forecasting menu item. Thanks. Ed

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2022, 02:01:14 PM »
If I understand correctly, you want to see when the axes, if they are within the year where the solar is valid, hit planets and activate them.
There are daily progressions with 1 degree per day. Kühr used that with Naibod.
Morin used this for solar horoscopes with 1 degree per Day.
I think this is what you mean ?
However, I have not yet found daily directories in PD.

Yes this is what i mean!
I'll just have to do it manually, its not like i can't count  ;D

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2022, 02:07:40 PM »
How do the axes from a solar, being a static horoscope, hit planets?
I could understand the opposite, a transit planet hitting the as/mc axes.
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2022, 03:33:17 PM »
You take the solar as a basis and instead of directing with 1 degree per year with primary direction you direct with 1 degree per day.

I have tried that this morning times in Astroplus. Create a radix with the data of the solar and then daily direction.
 
If it depends only on AC/MC, does not go then also, roughly seen: solar duplicate - biweel old - and then click on day by day ? ???

Or tinker a transparent aspect disc and put it over the solar and continue rotate degree by degree. i mean that seriously. Is useful for many things.

I have tested for years all possible direction methods and nothing has really convinced me. Sometimes it fits, then again far and wide no release is in view.

Rhythmic releases have disappointed me less. With the solar: 30 days per house, like with Resona.


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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2022, 03:37:42 PM »
solar duplicate - biweel old - and then click on day by day ? ???

Yes i suggested something like this, seems a perfect way to do it.
Or horoscope - list on a solar.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2022, 04:32:51 PM »
Yes, that's quite enough.
Here is a comparison of the accuracy of both methods. See graphs.
I have taken 20.05.1998 as the day. Sheen suffered a stroke after an overdose while using cocaine.
Here it fits this time: MC squares venus in 9 and saturn in 3. Beautiful crash. ;)
Hope this helps.
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2022, 03:56:45 PM »

 
If it depends only on AC/MC, does not go then also, roughly seen: solar duplicate - biweel old - and then click on day by day ? ???



You're a genius that's perfect. Thankyou!

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Re: Progressing Solar return angles?
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2022, 04:42:55 PM »
I wanted to reply that you can do that also with the new biwheel but it does not work as it should, will be fixed.
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