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Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« on: October 22, 2022, 10:16:54 PM »
Hi Jean and Ed,

While I was making the video about Planetdance and the dozens of features it calculates, an idea came to me. We know that in Ancient Astrology transits act as triggers and with very few exceptions only the transits of the rulers of the times are to considered.

Can you program a feature that allows the user to select and calculate the transits to a given planet, and to have the option of selecting the transit to be to that planet's natal position and its solar revolution one?

An example. See attached Novak Djokovic's nativity and 2022 SR.

His data is 22 May 1987, 23h.25m, Serbia, Belgrade, Asc 16.04 Cap.

He turned turned 35 this May = 12th place year = Sag = Jupiter is the Lord of the Year/LoY. Natal Jupiter is at 18.57 Ari. Jupiter returns and is at 2.07 Ari in the 2022 SR.

Can you program it so the user can see:

1) the ingress dates into and out of natal and SR Jupiter in this case. So when planets ingress into Ari;

2) the transit dates to the exact aspects to natal Jupiter at 18.57 Ari and SR Jupiter 2.07 Ari?

3) the ingress dates of planets transiting the profected Asc (Sag in this case);

4) the ingress dates of planets transiting the SR Asc (Leo in this case);

5) the ingress dates and aspects of transiting planets to the natal Lot of Fortune (Pisc in this case);

6) the ingress dates and aspects of transiting planets to the SR Lot of Fortune (Tau in this cae);

The key here is to have the option to select the ingresses and the transited planet/stake/Lot, either natally or in the solar revolution. As far as I know, no astrological software offers this feature.

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2022, 10:00:01 AM »
As this is mostly classical, we have to wait what Ed has to say.
Meanwhile it's easy to have ingresses with Time List.
And there's also horoscope - extra - ingress.
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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2022, 05:28:42 PM »
That is a great feature, Jean. I don't know how I missed it. 

All it needs to have is the option of adding natal as well as SR positions added. Because right now, if one wants to include the Asc or MC, hundreds of aspects are given, since no planet/point is fixed and the Asc/MC move so quickly.

Looking forward to what Ed has to say.

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2022, 05:52:57 PM »
Hi Zagata - thanks for doing the great video on Planetdance. It was interesting to see some of the modules that I've coded in action.

I can definitely take a look at this for you. I have to fix a really annoying bug in the cosmobiology module first but I can then have a look at your request.

All the best. Ed

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2022, 03:04:24 PM »
Hi Ed,

My pleasure for doing the video. Thank you programming these very comprehensive modules. Planetdance is like a gift that keeps on giving.

Of course, when you have the time, I would appreciate it if you consider my request. In fact, Schoener has a somewhat different principle:

"The transit of the lord of the Ascendant of the Nativity over the degree of an infortune in the radix makes the native unfortunate on that day according to the position of the infortune in the house of the revolution, especially if that infortune has dominion in the year."

The bottom line is that having the option of checking when a natal or SR planet is transited or aspected will save the user a lot of time and help pinpoint specific weeks and days within the year.

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2023, 05:01:07 PM »
Hi Ed,

Is there any chance that you would program the features that I requested?
Thanks.

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2023, 08:58:06 PM »
Hi Zagata - thanks for getting in touch about your request. I've looked at it again and it is quite a complicated set of parameters. Is this within the Ed Greek or the Medieval Traditional Chart module?

At the moment I am extremely busy with my paid job so I have little time for scripting. I can't promise anything very quickly I'm afraid. #

All the best and thanks for your on-going support for Planetdance.

Ed

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2023, 04:37:38 PM »
Hi Ed,

I understand. Let's make it less complicated then. When you have enough time, how about considering just adding transits to solar revolution positions? I am talking about doing this within the Medieval wheel.

Thanks for your consideration and all the best to you as well.

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2023, 05:18:20 PM »
There is Time - Return transit list, have you seen it?
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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2023, 07:01:53 AM »
Hi Zagata - have you used this feature within the medieval module: Forecasting->Annual Forecasting Summary. This gives a snapshot for the chosen date, including transit positions and the relevant solar return.

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Re: Ingresses to Natal and SR Positions
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2023, 06:41:02 PM »
Hi Jean,

Thanks, I had not explored the Time - Return transit list. Upon doing so, it is not quite what I am looking for because it shows the aspects for the SR in question only, or for Me, Ve or Ma return date. In other words, it only shows the aspects on a given day.

Hi Ed,

Yes, I use this feature. It provides a very useful annual or monthly summary. However, what I looking for is something more specific that only happens on certain days within a given SR. For example, say Mars opposes the natal Asc. And say SR Mars squares the SR Asc. Upon seeing this, I want to identify the dangerous months and days during the year.

Setting aside the monthly profections and revolutions for now, it would greatly help to have a table that shows when transiting Mars will oppose, square or conjunct the SR Asc. Likewise with the transits to the SR Lot of Fortune, the SR Lights, the SR MC and the SR Asc lord. At a least a few softwares offer reports on transits, progressions or solar arc directions to natal planets, with the hit dates/perods. But none that I know offer to calculate transits to solar revolution positions.