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Hellenistic

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Hi there, a million thanks for this software, I don't know how to express in words enough to say how much I appreciate this software, it a million blessing.

But there one thing that is wrong under Medieval chart and I need Sir Ed whom developer of the Medieval section please look into this.

I will give the direct link to Astrodients of the Chaldean order chart. And
 I will show the wheel below: https://www.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Ruler_of_the_Hour

According to the ancient scheme of the "Chaldean order"
The Sun rules Sunday
The Moon rules Monday
Mars rules Tuesday.
Mercury rules Wednesday.
Jupiter rules Thursday.
Venus rules Friday.
Saturn rules Saturday

I born on Saturday at 1:15PM, under Medieval chart it got it right that my Hour Ruler is Saturn, however the Day Ruler is wrong, it has down as Venus due to the automatic thinking from I'm daychart. Sorry, but that not how Chaldean order work, someone who born on Saturday regardless day or night, it is SATURN that is the Day ruler of that day.

Astrodienst has it right that my Day Ruler is Saturn (I born Saturday). And my Hour Ruler is Saturn.
But Planetdance has it incorrect, my Day Ruler is not Venus, sorry.

I want this tweet because it effect because the Day Ruler points should go to Saturn instead of Venus under Victor of the chart (Day Ruler points).

Please tweet this. I am not Venus Day Ruler, I am Saturn Day Ruler (Saturday born).

Thank you so so much.

« Last Edit: March 14, 2023, 10:33:56 AM by Hellenistic »

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Hi there - I will need you to send me the chart data you are using otherwise I will be unable to recreate the problem. Could you send me chart data through the message function on the forum please for 2 or 3 charts where you think the ruler is wrong. Thanks .Ed

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Thank you Sir for your replied.

ok, let try one chart first, let just use my husband chart for example. Under Horoscope, Medieval traditional chart.

He born June 19, 1984 at 10:02AM
born in Shanghai, China.

June 19, of year 1984 is a Tuesday, Mars is his Day Ruler, Not Moon.
If you look at the Chaldean order you see the Moon rule the Day Monday, not Tuesday. Tuesday Day is rule by Mars.

You can use another software to check the Almuten (it will say Day Ruler and Hour Ruler on there) of the birthday above and you will see software will say Mars is the Day Ruler, not Moon.

It actually any chart, it just not follow that Chaldean order, you can try it with your chart too.

This lead me to the next question, what formula or sources you use for Chaldean order for Day Ruler and Hour Ruler then so the software get to the result of each planet in each day?
I mean there only one Chaldean order chart, so maybe you use something else for your Day Ruler.

Thank you so much Sir.

My apology to you if I misunderstand something, I speak 3 languages and 4 dialects, and my English is not good due to it not my native language.



« Last Edit: March 14, 2023, 10:32:24 AM by Hellenistic »

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Thank you for the feedback. I have looked at the code and found a bug. I have tested the correction with twenty charts cast for places around the world, including for the data you have given me, and it looks like this is now fixed. I will test for a few more days and then ask Jean to release an update.

Best wishes. Ed

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Thank you soo much Sir Ed.

And a million thank you again soo much for this wonderful software.

I'm sorry for the bothering and any inconvenient this may have cause.

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Thank you for your feedback. I'm glad that you enjoy using the software.

Ed

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Just to update you - we are still looking at this. It's a complicated issue but we want to make sure we get this right.

Ed

Hellenistic

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Thank you Sir Ed, no hurry, I can wait a month or longer if needed, or you can just update it once you roll out the fix of yours.
I really appreciated for your kindness looking into this issue, Thank you Sir.

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Hello,

I think i fixed this, can you update and check?
Greetings from Groningen Netherlands <)))><.`.><(((>

Hellenistic

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Sorry Sir, I got busy on the weekend so didn't log in. But I just installed right now to the newest version of 3.22.2023
And it still not fix yet, it still like the old version one.

Sir Ed, can you also update the  newest version and check it too for me please Sir. Under Medieval Traditional chart.

Let use my husband chart:
He born June 19, 1984 at 10:02AM
born in Shanghai, China.

June 19, of year 1984 is a Tuesday, according to the Chaldean order, born Tuesday Mars is his Day Ruler, Not Moon. It still show Moon just like before.

I don't mind waiting as long as it take, but I do want to get this fix though, I mean there only one Chaldean order in Medieval astrology.

Thank you Sir Ed, thank you Sir Jean.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2023, 09:13:31 AM by Hellenistic »

Jean

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I published another update, can you try again? It now reports mars as day ruler for your husband's chart.
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Hellenistic

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Thank you Sir Jean, but now it Venus, I will screenshot it for you to see. Maybe it think it Venus because my husband is a "daychart".

But June 19 1984 is not Venus day though, Venus in Chaldean order rule Friday birth. He born on Tuesday, that not Venus day rule.

I attach a screenshot.


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Ok, it's Ed's work so i'm trying to find my way. I changed the way he displayed those rulers, please try again.
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Hellenistic

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wow Sir Jean, it is right now. Thank you Sir, and thank you Sir Ed.

I'm so so happy, it right now. It just I'm a huge fan of Hellenistic and Medieval astrology, so these stuff is important to me that it right.

Here is the screenshot, thank you Sir.


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I see there's a bit of overlap, Ed will surely fix it.
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