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Almugea Time Lord System
« on: April 30, 2023, 09:39:03 AM »
Hi there - I have adapted Rok's innovative time lord system to use almugea, or proper face, positions. In this variation, the planet's distance from it's almugea position according to sect is measured and used for the duration of its period as time lord.

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ALMUGEA TIME LORD SYSTEM - a modern time-lord technique developed by Ed (with many thanks to Rok Koritinik for his original Trails of Stars technique)

ALMUGEA EXPLAINED

Each planet has a favoured position known as being in almugea or proper face. The procedure is as follows:

The domicile of the planets in a nocturnal chart by almugea are Gemini (Mercury), Taurus (Venus), Aries (Mars), Pisces (Jupiter) and Aquarius (Saturn). The Sun retains its single domicile in Leo. The Moon retains its single domicile in Cancer.

The domicile of the planets in a diurnal chart by almugea are Virgo (Mercury), Libra (Venus), Scorpio (Mars), Sagittarius (Jupiter) and Capricorn (Saturn). The Moon retains its single domicile in Cancer. The Sun retains its single domicile in Leo.

The Sun and the Moon only have one domicile each (Leo and Cancer). This division of diurnal and nocturnal domiciles by almugea is a medieval technique, but we unfortunately rarely see it put in use.  The technique here does, like most Hellenistic or traditional techniques comply with the principle of sect and also take diurnal and nocturnal domiciles into the account.

THE TECHNIQUE EXPLAINED

1. We determine the initiator - the Sun or the Moon (as described below).

2. We count how many signs the initiator has traveled from its almugea position. If in almugea, it gets 12 years. If in the 2nd sign from it, it gets 1 year. If in the 12th sign from it, it gets 11 years, etc. In this technique based on almugea positions, if the Moon is initiator the distances are calculated against the order of signs; if the Sun is initiator, the distances are calculated in the order of signs.

3. We continue in the ascending order by speed, so if we started with the Sun, the next time-lord will be Mars and if we started with the Moon, the next time-lord will be Mercury. We count the signs according to the sect, thus by day from the diurnal domicile and by night from the nocturnal one.

4. When the full cycle of time-lords is complete, the rulership of time is handed over to the sect light again.

Rok named his original technique Trails of the Stars, because the planets are leaving a trail from their domicile that represents years they have traversed, thus the amount of years they rule.

SELECTING THE INITIATOR (Rok's technique)

Ancient techniques for calculating the length of life require that we select the epikratétor or the predominator of the horoscope. This is usually the Sun by day or the Moon by night, provided they meet certain criteria. If they don't, then the other luminary takes the place of the predominator, or sometimes even Fortune or the Ascendant. Since the selection of the predominator is not a part of this technique we will not examine it. The Trails of the Stars time-lord technique does require a similar selection of the luminary from which we start the releasing or counting of time, but the rules are a bit simpler than those for selecting the predominator and are based on whole-sign places. We shall call the luminary that begins the counting of years the Initiator.

The initiator can only be one of the two luminaries. In a diurnal horoscope the initiator is the Sun, unless he is in the 8th or the 12th place (with the 8th place having some exceptions). In such a case the Moon replaces the Sun, provided she is not in the 12th or the 6th place. The same rules apply for a nocturnal horoscope, where the Moon is the initiator, unless she is in the above mentioned places. If both luminaries are in difficult places, then we select the one that is in the 8th or the 2nd, since these two places are succeedent and will eventually move to an angle. In order to not leave too much space for speculation I've decided to write down all the possible scenarios where the luminary of the sect is replaced by the other.

BY DAY (places in order of diurnal rotation):

The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 1st = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 12th = the Sun
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 11th  = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 10th  = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 9th = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 8th = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 7th = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 6th = the Sun
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 5th = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 4th = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 3rd = the Moon
The Sun in the 12th, the Moon in the 2nd = the Moon

The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 1st = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 12th = the Sun
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 11th = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 10th = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 9th = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 8th = the Sun
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 7th = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 6th = the Sun
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 5th = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 4th = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 3rd = the Moon
The Sun in the 8th, the Moon in the 2nd = the Sun

Note: The Sun in the 6th and 2nd places will always be below the horizon, but if he is up to 6 degrees below the horizon the horoscope is considered to be diurnal.

The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 1st = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 12th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 11th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 10th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 9th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 8th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 7th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 6th = the Sun
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 5th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 4th = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 3rd = the Moon
The Sun in the 6th, the Moon in the 2nd = the Moon

If the Sun is in the 9th place and the Moon is in the 1st or the 7th place and above the horizon, then the Moon replaces the Sun. Since the 9th place is the place of the Sun's joy, the Moon must be above the horizon in order to be able to take the Sun's role as the initiator. She can replace the Sun also if she is in the 11th or the 10th place.

BY NIGHT (places in order of diurnal rotation):

The Moon in the 12th, the Sun in the 6th = the Moon
The Moon in the 12th, the Sun in the 5th = the Sun
The Moon in the 12th, the Sun in the 4th = the Sun
The Moon in the 12th, the Sun in the 3rd = the Sun
The Moon in the 12th, the Sun in the 2rd = the Sun
The Moon in the 8th, the Sun in the 6th = the Moon
The Moon in the 8th, the Sun in the 5th = the Sun
The Moon in the 8th, the Sun in the 4th = the Sun
The Moon in the 8th, the Sun in the 3rd = the Sun
The Moon in the 8th, the Sun in the 2rd = the Moon

The Moon in the 6th, the Sun in the 6th = the Moon
The Moon in the 6th, the Sun in the 5th = the Sun
The Moon in the 6th, the Sun in the 4th = the Sun
The Moon in the 6th, the Sun in the 3rd = the Sun
The Moon in the 6th, the Sun in the 2rd = the Sun

The Moon in the 2nd, the Sun in the 6th = the Moon
The Moon in the 2nd  the Sun in the 5th = the Sun
The Moon in the 2nd, the Sun in the 4th = the Sun
The Moon in the 2nd, the Sun in the 3rd = the Sun
The Moon in the 2nd, the Sun in the 2rd = the Moon

If the Moon is in the 3rd place of her joy, she can be replaced by the Sun only if he is in the 1st or the 7th place and also if he is in the 5th or the 4th place.

Alternatively the user may select either sect light to override the calculation technique.

THE USE OF THE TECHNIQUE

The aim of Trails of the Stars time-lord technique is to provide a very individualized time-lords which are used in conjunction with profections and Solar returns. The time-lord by this technique sets up the context within which the subsequent Sun-based techniques (profections and Solar returns) are judged.

This variation of the technique uses almugea position rather than the nocturnal and diurnal rulerships of the planets, which is the basis of Rok's original technique.

Reference: Helena Avelar and Luis Ribeiro (2010) On the Heavenly Spheres: A Treatise on Traditional Astrology. AFA: Tempe, AZ. p. 165

Rok Koritnik

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2023, 10:18:01 AM »
Awesome Ed!
It's good to see someone expanding on the idea.

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2023, 08:43:49 PM »
Thanks Rok - I'm going to write a piece on this system for the Planetdance in Action board. There were some interesting results, but I think the idea needs some further development.

Keep us updated on your work with the Trails of the Stars technique. Ed

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2023, 01:53:18 PM »
I certainly consider the Trails as sort of a public beta. It's been developed on a limited pool of horoscopes and primarily of course it's based on existing concepts. The one thing that perhaps needs refinement are the rules for the selection of the Initiator and I've also noticed that it's useful to have them done both from the Sun and the Moon as parallel time-lords.

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2023, 09:32:12 AM »
Hi there - I have improved the layout of this module so please download again. This is v.2.02. Thanks. Ed

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2023, 09:13:36 PM »
Hi there - the latest version of this script is attached at the foot of the first post in this thread.

v. 2.08 - version corrects various bugs.

Thanks. Ed

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2023, 08:41:58 AM »
Hi there - the latest version fixes a bug in the identification of the initiator if the chart is nocturnal and Sun and Moon in the Whole Sign 6th house.

It is v.2.16.

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2024, 01:58:57 PM »
Hi there - if you are using this module, please update to the latest version as of 26 June 2024:

v.2.19 - bug fix for initiatorID - if sun in 8th and moon in 12th (julian assange), also for sun in 12 wsh and moon in any other than 12 or 6 wsh

The script is attached to the first post in the thread.

Many thanks. Ed

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Re: Almugea Time Lord System
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2024, 03:29:45 PM »
Hi there - the latest version (download above) has a bug correction for the level 3 lords.

v.2.26 - bug fix for sublords level 3 display - date correction for start date

Please download if you are using this module.

Ed