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NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« on: September 07, 2023, 08:19:00 PM »
Hi there - the NFL kicks off again today. First up the Detroit Lions travel to the Chiefs. The Chiefs are favoured by over 90% of the Pickwatch pundits so must be counted as clear favourites.

I am going to start the season using the algorithm for last year. This began to falter in December, for reasons which are now clear. John Frawley, in his Sports Astrology books, points out the limitations of a method such as the one I devised on p. 83. I will delve into Frawley's insight as we go along the weeks. I am introducing Frawley's method of predicting sporting contests over the new few weeks. I am still learning his approach and trying to code the key features within Planetdance. Anyway...

The astrology favours the Chiefs, only narrowly. The Chiefs' significators are Jupiter and Venus; the Lions have Mercury and Venus. Neither side benefits from Venus, so it's down to the relative strength of Jupiter and Mercury.

On balance, Jupiter just tips it, being in its own bounds, aspecting the horizon, and Venus being in the face of Jupiter, so a minor reception.

The Lions have Mercury on their side. It's in dignity in Virgo, in their own house, close to the horizon, but retrograde. Mercury is in the bounds of Venus, a slightly stronger reception than that of the Chiefs.

All this points, in my view, to the need for the Lions QB  to play out of his skin. If he can do this, the Lions might win the day, but retrograde Mercury suggests it might be an uphill struggle - a match with lots of self-inflicted errors? Or a case of first night nerves?

Chiefs to win, perhaps narrowly.

Post-match

A big Lions upset for the first match of the year. They take a win with a TD in the fourth quarter.

Lions 21 Chiefs 20

Experts 0 Astrologer 0

Running total (1 match)

Experts 0 Astrologer 0

Review

I've done a little bit of work on the algorithm. I've dropped the retrograde planets (I thought I'd done this a while ago) and also the VOC moon factor. The reassessment results in a narrow victory for the 'dogs, being the Detroit team.

I'm going to run with this version of the algorithm.

See the updated screenshot below.

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2023, 10:19:58 PM »
Here is some early work around using John Frawley's method within Planetdance. I am still learning this system, so any conclusions or predictions are very provisional.

Frawley bases his method on identifying the rulers of the ascendant and MC for the favourite, and the lords of the descendant and IC for the underdog. In this case the Chiefs have Jupiter serving as a dual significator; the Lions have Mercury serving both angles.

The circular highlights around the angles on the chart indicate zones of high intensity in Frawley's method. He dispenses with a full house system and focuses on angular placements - planets rising, setting, culminating or anti-culminating.

You can see that there are two angular placements highlighted: Mercury, the Lions' significator, just inside the 7th house cusp. This points to the key role of the Lions' QB identified in my previous posting. Placements just inside the cusp are strong in Frawley's system, but not as strong as placements just on the cusp. Here Mercury is identifed as a positive support for the Lions - Jared Goff needs to deliver.

Fortune has an unusual role in Frawley's method - it's important, but not as important is the antiscion of Fortune in mundane position. Frawley gives a rationale for this that I don't fully understand at the moment. Nevertheless, Fortune is just inside the cusp of the tenth house. On the face of it, this would seem to be a strong indication for the favourite. However, in Frawley's view, the much stronger placement would be for the Chiefs to have the antiscion of Fortune here. In this case, the Chiefs would be certainties to win.

Interestingly, Frawley doesn't reverse Fortune at night, so follows Ptolemy in just using the day formula.

The Moon's movement over a range of five degrees shows the flow of the match, and aspects from the Moon to planets and antiscia mark out a narrative for the game. In this match, the Moon is VOC, and doesn't make any Ptolemaic aspect before it exits Gemini. My sense is that this shows that the favourites are unlikely to be hindered in victory, but nor are they supported by the passage of play. The Moon here is quite neutral.

My sense is that the two sides may play out a more evenly matched game than the pundits predict. With the limited experience I have of Frawley's method, I think he might say that the Lions have a slight edge, but I am interested to know how the VOC moon plays out. I wonder if it will come to pass that however well Goff plays as the QB, it won't be enough to overturn the reigning SB champions. Both sides have a chance I suspect, and might be a closer match for each than the pundits expect.

We'll see.....

Postmatch

An interesting start for the Frawley method. I think he might have got this one right and predicted the upset based on the angular Mercury.

Frawley 1 Everyone else 0!

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2023, 08:57:09 AM »
Hi Ed, welcome back and thanks for posting again. I didn’t watch the game but scoreline suggests it was a close game. I will watch some tape tonight and see how the game went.

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2023, 10:23:05 PM »
Cowboys @ Giants - 10 September 2023

The next game from the first round is the Dallas team's visit to the New York Giants. Dallas are favoured to win by around 3 out of 4 Pickwatch pundits.

Aries rising gives the Cowboys a Mars ruler. Mars is handily placed in the opponent's house and is in a reception by bounds with their bound lord Mercury. The Giants are ruled by Venus, in the 5th WSH, so the less benefic is well configured with the horizon. Jupiter is in its own bounds, so well dignified. The Giants have both benefics on their side, although Jupiter is not well placed in the WSH second.

If the Cowboys play true to their Mars strength, they should win here, perhaps even overwhelming the home team Giants. However some luck and some special teams magic might see the Giants home advantage play out.

Cowboys to win.

Post-match

The Cowboys win big in their first match of the year. Their defence, it seems, completely shut out the Giants - a classic example of Mars in action.

Cowboys 40 Giants 0

Experts 1 Astrologer 1

Running total (2 matches)

Experts 1 / 2 (50%) Astrologer 1 / 2 (50%)

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2023, 10:44:28 PM »
Cowboys @ Giants - 10 September 2023

Frawley Method

I have limited experience with Frawley's method. However, it is noteworthy that the zones around each angle are not occupied by any point - neither planet nor antiscia. This means we must look elsewhere for clues to pick the winner.

Of note - which I think support a Cowboys win - are the following:

Lord 10 Saturn (Cowboys' MC ruler) is conjunct Fortune
Moon applying to sextile Lord 1 Mars (Cowboys' Asc ruler) although just beyond Frawley's typical five degree limit
Mars partile square MC-IC axis

The challenge for the Cowboys comes from the antiscion of Fortune and the antiscion of Saturn conjunct the South Node. The South Node is a malefic point in the chart and harms the chances of the favourite. I am inclined to think that the stronger significations for the Cowboys will carry them through the match, although I don't think a Giants' win can be totally ruled out with Frawley's method.

Overall, Cowboys to win using Frawley's method, with Lord 10 conjunct Fortune and Moon applying to sextile Lord 1 (just outside the five degree limit) are decisive. Frawley does allow for a small extension of the Moon's range over the course of the match if extra is possible. A draw at the end of regulation play? With a Cowboys' win in O/T?

Postmatch

Frawely comes up trumps again.

2 / 2 (100%)

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2023, 04:58:18 AM »
Cowboys @ Giants - 10 September 2023

The next game from the first round is the Dallas team's visit to the New York Giants. Dallas are favoured to win by around 3 out of 4 Pickwatch pundits.

Aries rising gives the Cowboys a Mars ruler. Mars is handily placed in the opponent's house and is in a reception by bounds with their bound lord Mercury. The Giants are ruled by Venus, in the 5th WSH, so the less benefic is well configured with the horizon. Jupiter is in its own bounds, so well dignified. The Giants have both benefics on their side, although Jupiter is not well placed in the WSH second.

If the Cowboys play true to their Mars strength, they should win here, perhaps even overwhelming the home team Giants. However some luck and some special teams magic might see the Giants home advantage play out.

Cowboys to win.

Well done Ed 👏 your analysis is spot on. The Cowboys are overwhelming the Giants 40:0 end of 3rd.

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2023, 07:03:23 AM »
Thanks DB - I'm pleased with the Cowboys-Giants match. Using the algorithm, the win was clear to see. The Giants didn't get a look in. Welcome back for the 2023 Season.

I'll be looking at the Monday night game shortly.

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2023, 07:24:51 AM »
Bills @ Jets - 11 September 2023

The Buffalo Bills travel to the NY Jets for their first game of the season. 2/3 of Pickwatch pundits are favouring the Bills to win. The game has huge interest because it will be Aaron Rodgers first main season appearance for the Jets. The expectations for this match are huge.

The astrology of this match is pretty much identical to Sunday's match up between the Cowboys and the NY Giants. The key difference is that the Moon has moved on to mid-Leo, and is separating from the square of Jupiter and the conjunction of Venus. The benefics are the Jets' lords. This suggests to me that the Rodgers' bird has flown, at least for this week.

Bills to win

Post-match

What a disaster for the Jets, at least in terms of Aaron Rodgers' tenure as starting QB - he suffered what looks like a terrible injury. The Jets rallied from this early blow to win.

Jets 22 Bills 16

Experts 0 Astrologer 0

Running total (3 matches)

Experts 1 / 3 (33%) Astrologer 1 / 3 (33%)

Reflection

One thing to note in the chart - although there are no partile aspects between significators for either team, Moon is partile square Jupiter, the Jets' bound lord. I wonder if this is a factor in the overall outcome.

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2023, 07:34:17 AM »
Bills @ Jets - 11 September 2023

Frawley method

Here we have a clear divergence from the algorithm. The Jets have the antiscion of Fortune on their angle. In Frawley's method this is a decisive indication of a Jets win.

The Jets have some other advantages: Moon is approaching square antiscion Venus, and Jupiter is aspecting Fortune closely (Jupiter is Lord of Fortune). Remember that Frawley does not reverse the night calculation of Fortune.

In my limited experience of this method, I think Frawley would say "Jets to win".

Postmatch

Frawley's on fire

3 / 3 (100%)

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2023, 03:24:35 AM »
Oh looks like Rodgers is out for the game. Wow Rodgers’ bird has flown this week 👏 accurate Ed.

« Last Edit: September 12, 2023, 03:45:58 AM by dbozics »

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2023, 08:02:08 AM »
Hi DB - that's not quite what I had in mind for Rodgers. What a pity for him and the team. No confirmation of the exact injury yet, but the talk suggests it could be a season-ending Achilles tear. At this stage in Rodgers' career it could be the end of the road.

Astrology's a strange thing. Although I got the result of the match wrong, along with the experts, when I looked at the chart I had a really strong sense that it wouldn't be Rodgers' night. However I hadn't anticipated something as serious as this.

All the best. Ed

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2023, 09:05:54 PM »
Vikings @ Eagles - 14 September 2023

This match up sees the Minnesota travel to Philadelphia. The Eagles are heavily favoured to win by the Pickwatch pundits - 9 out of 10 favour the home team.

The Eagles have Mars in their corner. Mars is peregrine and in detriment. However it is prominently configured in the Vikings house. Mars is the Eagles double ruler, being the lord of the Aries ascendant and the bound lord of the degree of the ascendant.

The Vikings have Jupiter and Venus, the benefic planets, as their lords. Venus is the ruler of the descendant and Jupiter is the bound lord. Jupiter is in its own bounds, and in Venus' sign, Taurus. Venus is configured with the horizon.

On balance, it looks like the Eagles' peregrine Mars will still overcome the Vikings' benefics.

Eagles to win.

Post-match

The Eagles prevailed in the end.

Eagles 34 Vikings 28

Experts 1 Astrologer 1

Running total (4 matches)

Experts 2 / 4 (50%) Astrologer 2 / 4 (50%)

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2023, 07:26:43 AM »
Dolphins @ Patriots - 17 September 2023

The Dolphins travel north to play the Patriots at home. 3 out of 4 Pickwatch pundits favour the Dolphins to win.

The Dolphins have a double Venus rulership. Venus rules their angle and the rising degree is in the bounds of Venus. Venus is well placed in the WSH fourth, square to the horizon.

The Patriots have a double Mars rulership. Mars rules the descendant sign, and Mars is the bound lord of the descendant degree. Unfortunately Mars is poorly placed in the WSH sixth, in aversion to the horizon. It looks like the Pats might try to out-muscle the Dolphins here, but Tua's artistry as QB is likely to be too much for the home team.

Dolphins to win.

Post-match

The Dolphins win as predicted.

Dolphins 24 Patriots 17

Experts 1 Astrologer 1

Running total (5 matches)

Experts 3 / 5 (60%) Astrologer 3 / 5 (60%)

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2023, 07:40:03 AM »
Dolphins @ Patriots - 17 September 2023

Frawley method

In this match, based on my limited experience of Frawley's method, I think he would judge that the underdogs are going to spring a surprise.

There are two indications of this: antiscion of Fortune close to the IC and the Moon's final aspect is a square to Pluto. Frawley says that the position of the antiscion of Fortune is a clear signification of the likely winner. Being close to the IC (fourth house cusp) which belongs to the underdogs, suggests that the Patriots have the edge.

Frawley says that "Pluto seems to have sort of grudge against the favourites" (p. 90). In this game, the Moon applies to square Pluto, suggesting to me that the Dolphins are going to struggle to win.

It may also be of note that the grand cross in the final decan of cardinal signs - involving Pluto, antiscion lord of Fortune (Mercury), antiscion Fortune, nodal axis, Moon and antiscion Saturn - seems to conspire against the Dolphins. However, I don't have sufficient experience of Frawley's method to say this definitively.

Postmatch

My analysis using Frawley's method was unsuccessful. The 'dogs didn't overturn the favourites on this occasion. Frawley, of course, might have come to a different conclusion.

3 /4 (75%)

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Re: NFL - 2023-2024 Season Predictions
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2023, 09:02:23 AM »
Browns @ Steelers - 18 September 2023

The Cleveland Browns travel to Pittsburgh for the Monday night game. The Browns are looking for the second win, after seeing off the Bengals in week one. The Steelers are looking to pick up their first win and go .500.  60% of pundits favour the Browns.

The astrology suggests that the Browns will prevail. With Aries rising, Mars is well-placed in the Pittsburgh angle. Browns look like they have the muscle to over-power the Steelers. Mercury is well dignified as the bound lord of the rising degree. However it is not well-placed in relation to the horizon. Deshaun Watson has a role to play as the QB, but this is likely to be secondary to the Browns' ground game.

The Steelers are not out of this match. The descendant ruler is Venus, and Jupiter is the bound lord. Jupiter in Taurus is ruled by Venus and is in its own bounds. Unfortunately it is in the WSH second, and in aversion to the horizon, although this is a better position than either the sixth, eighth or twelfth WSH. Venus is well configured with the horizon.

Overall, the Browns to 'win ugly' here, but it could be a close match. 

Post-match

The Steelers sneak this one after the Browns lose powerhouse RB Nick Chubb to serious injury. Chubb is likely to be out of the rest of the season. Astrologer and experts take a big hit on this game.

Steelers 26 Browns 22

Experts 0 Astrologer 0

Running total (6 matches)

Experts 3 / 6 (50%) Astrologer 3 / 6 (50%)