Midpoints applying and seperating?

[Lisha]

How do I know which midpoints are still applying and which ones have already separated?

The midpoints attached as an example, the Merc square Moon/Asc midpoint is very close but is that separating or applying?

[Jean]

to know that i would have to calculate every midpoint a second later to see if the orb has in or decreased.
I'll put it on the list.

[Lisha]

Oh, Jean, I hope I'm not giving you a lot of work to do for such a minor query 

But this query has bothered me for some time and I can't work it out myself. But I do really appreciate you looking into this for me.

And Happy New Year to you and the Planetdance team you're amazing 

[Jean]

Happy new year to you too Lisha.

What you can do with a radix is do midpoints, then move the radix in time a minute or so and do midpoints again and compare the orbs on the two screens, if it gets smaller the aspect is applying and vice versa.

[ABer]

Hi Lisha and Jean - I think you can do this by sorting the midpoints in longitude order. I'm sure this is how I did it in the cosmobiology module. Have a look at Horoscope-Extra-Cosmobiology. See screenshot attached. Ed

[Jean]

Without looking at the code, are you sure it's the same? Sorting on longitude does not include the speed of the midpoint moving in time.

[ABer]

Hi Jean - I guess that would be something different. Could you use getvelocities() to identify retrograde planets, and then planet < mpt && speed < 0 = separating, planet < mpt && speed >= 0 = applying etc. I think I've used this elsewhere, but probably not as robust as calculating again.

Ed

[Jean]

i would either just calculate again after a second, or use velocities if you have them to do the same. I'm not sure about your method.

[Lisha]

Hi Lisha and Jean - I think you can do this by sorting the midpoints in longitude order. I'm sure this is how I did it in the cosmobiology module. Have a look at Horoscope-Extra-Cosmobiology. See screenshot attached. Ed

Thanks Ed this has helped. It has also helped by triggering an idea of another way I could calculate which ones are separating and applying using the cosmobiology module.

Looking at the midpoints I've shared as an example:
Merc square Moon/Asc 00°01, I wasn't sure if this was applying or separating. In the cosmobiology module I can see that the Moon/Asc midpoint is 22°24 Virgo and Mercury in the chart was at 22°24 Sagittarius. So this was exact (-1" out) placing the (now separating) configuration at the top.
The Merc square Moon/Saturn midpoint underneath at 00°42. The Moon/Saturn midpoint is at 21°43 Sagittarius and Mercury at 22°24 Sagittarius which equals at 41" separating difference (-1" out again?).

And the midpoint trees also shows the same with the separating at the top (-) and applying moving down (+).

[ABer]

Hi Lisha - I can take a look at it, but would need the birthdata - just date, time place, and then I recreate the chart.

Thanks. Ed

[Jean]

Forget all i've said, i confused applying with increasing. I did look up the translations before i posted but i got them wrong anyway. 

[ABer]

Hi Lisha - what I could do is add a symbol to show direction of planet. So for example:

Lower longitude

> - (planet applying direct to midpoint)
< - (planet separating retrograde from midpoint)

Higher longitude

> + (planet separating direct from midpoint)
< + (planet applying retrograde to midpoint)

Would that be helpful.

[Lisha]

Hi Lisha - I can take a look at it, but would need the birthdata - just date, time place, and then I recreate the chart.

Thanks. Ed

Sorry for delay.
3rd Jan 2024. 20.49pm. Nuneaton.Uk

[Lisha]

Hi Lisha - what I could do is add a symbol to show direction of planet. So for example:

Lower longitude

> - (planet applying direct to midpoint)
< - (planet separating retrograde from midpoint)

Higher longitude

> + (planet separating direct from midpoint)
< + (planet applying retrograde to midpoint)

Would that be helpful.

Yes, this would be very helpful.Thanks Ed.

[Jean]

@Ed to calculate applying first i determine which is the fastest planet, using a simple array starting with the moon, so not the actual speed.
Then i simply do

   double dist = Fast - Slow;
   if (dist < 0) dist += 360;
   OutGoing = (dist <= 180);