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Midpoints applying and seperating?
« on: January 03, 2024, 10:06:38 PM »
How do I know which midpoints are still applying and which ones have already separated?

The midpoints attached as an example, the Merc square Moon/Asc midpoint is very close but is that separating or applying?

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2024, 10:41:30 PM »
to know that i would have to calculate every midpoint a second later to see if the orb has in or decreased.
I'll put it on the list.
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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2024, 10:52:38 PM »
Oh, Jean, I hope I'm not giving you a lot of work to do for such a minor query  :-\

But this query has bothered me for some time and I can't work it out myself. But I do really appreciate you looking into this for me.

And Happy New Year to you and the Planetdance team you're amazing  :)

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2024, 11:20:34 PM »
Happy new year to you too Lisha.

What you can do with a radix is do midpoints, then move the radix in time a minute or so and do midpoints again and compare the orbs on the two screens, if it gets smaller the aspect is applying and vice versa.
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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2024, 08:41:03 AM »
Hi Lisha and Jean - I think you can do this by sorting the midpoints in longitude order. I'm sure this is how I did it in the cosmobiology module. Have a look at Horoscope-Extra-Cosmobiology. See screenshot attached. Ed

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2024, 08:58:16 AM »
Without looking at the code, are you sure it's the same? Sorting on longitude does not include the speed of the midpoint moving in time.
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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2024, 09:23:49 AM »
Hi Jean - I guess that would be something different. Could you use getvelocities() to identify retrograde planets, and then planet < mpt && speed < 0 = separating, planet < mpt && speed >= 0 = applying etc. I think I've used this elsewhere, but probably not as robust as calculating again.

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2024, 10:30:14 AM »
i would either just calculate again after a second, or use velocities if you have them to do the same. I'm not sure about your method.
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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2024, 02:45:48 PM »
Hi Lisha and Jean - I think you can do this by sorting the midpoints in longitude order. I'm sure this is how I did it in the cosmobiology module. Have a look at Horoscope-Extra-Cosmobiology. See screenshot attached. Ed

Thanks Ed this has helped. It has also helped by triggering an idea of another way I could calculate which ones are separating and applying using the cosmobiology module.

Looking at the midpoints I've shared as an example:
Merc square Moon/Asc 0001, I wasn't sure if this was applying or separating. In the cosmobiology module I can see that the Moon/Asc midpoint is 2224 Virgo and Mercury in the chart was at 2224 Sagittarius. So this was exact (-1" out) placing the (now separating) configuration at the top.
The Merc square Moon/Saturn midpoint underneath at 0042. The Moon/Saturn midpoint is at 2143 Sagittarius and Mercury at 2224 Sagittarius which equals at 41" separating difference (-1" out again?).

And the midpoint trees also shows the same with the separating at the top (-) and applying moving down (+).
« Last Edit: January 04, 2024, 02:48:06 PM by Lisha »

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2024, 05:42:18 PM »
Hi Lisha - I can take a look at it, but would need the birthdata - just date, time place, and then I recreate the chart.

Thanks. Ed

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2024, 05:46:13 PM »
Forget all i've said, i confused applying with increasing. I did look up the translations before i posted but i got them wrong anyway.  :-[ :-\
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2024, 07:31:42 PM »
Hi Lisha - what I could do is add a symbol to show direction of planet. So for example:

Lower longitude

> - (planet applying direct to midpoint)
< - (planet separating retrograde from midpoint)

Higher longitude

> + (planet separating direct from midpoint)
< + (planet applying retrograde to midpoint)

Would that be helpful.

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2024, 12:49:53 PM »
Hi Lisha - I can take a look at it, but would need the birthdata - just date, time place, and then I recreate the chart.

Thanks. Ed

Sorry for delay.
3rd Jan 2024. 20.49pm. Nuneaton.Uk

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2024, 12:51:14 PM »
Hi Lisha - what I could do is add a symbol to show direction of planet. So for example:

Lower longitude

> - (planet applying direct to midpoint)
< - (planet separating retrograde from midpoint)

Higher longitude

> + (planet separating direct from midpoint)
< + (planet applying retrograde to midpoint)

Would that be helpful.

Yes, this would be very helpful.Thanks Ed.

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Re: Midpoints applying and seperating?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2024, 05:02:25 PM »
@Ed to calculate applying first i determine which is the fastest planet, using a simple array starting with the moon, so not the actual speed.
Then i simply do

   double dist = Fast - Slow;
   if (dist < 0) dist += 360;
   OutGoing = (dist <= 180);
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