passage degree

[Francesco-Faraoni]

Hello everybody. I'm Francesco.

In some cases, it would be useful to know the "degree of passage" of the planet, for example for Pluto it would be very important to know its degree of passage. I don't know if this astronomical data can be consulted on the software.

Do you know anything about it?

Thanks for your attention.
Franz

[Jean]

I have never heard of it, and a google does not show up useful info.

[Francesco-Faraoni]

Passage degree is the "real degree" of a planet that considers longitude and latitude. For Pluto which has high latitude often in the local sphere it is not really where the zodiacal longitude tells us, due to its latitude. It is a degree present, for example, in software such as Prometheus.

[Jean]

Have a look at horoscope extra wva, the planets there are calculated with a method called 'true place' which is dependent on latitude.
If that's not what you want i wouldn't know, sorry.

[Francesco-Faraoni]

Passage degree: it is the degree of the ecliptic that, in the same quadrant, has the same hour angle distance as a star or any point of the local sphere. It is called this way because that degree 'passes' together with the star at the same hour angle distance. The ecliptic degree rising at the eastern horizon (Ascendant) is the passage degree of all points that rise at that moment. If, instead, a star were in the 11th house and its hour angle (DH) was 3.20, its passage degree would be the ecliptic degree located in the 11th house at a 3.20 hour angle distance. The passage degree does not correspond to the star's ecliptic longitude if the latter has a latitude different from 0?. Therefore, only the Sun always has a single ecliptic degree that expresses both its longitude and its hour angle passage.

The passage degree indicates the actual degree of a planet, which also depends on its latitude. For example, the passage degree for Pluto (when it assumes extreme latitudes) is very different from its zodiacal longitude. The passage degree, considering latitude, would indicate the actual position of the planet relative to the perception of the local sphere.

The formula for calculating the passage degree is as follows:

tan THETA = sin AOCH / (cos AOCH x cos OE - sin OE x tan CH)

If the AOCH of the star is greater than 90?, at the end of the calculation, 180? or 360? must be added to ensure that the ecliptic degree is in the correct position.

I am not sure if this calculation can be entered into PD. Thank you

[ABer]

Hi there. Have you looked at the Time-Tools-Paran Analysis module or the Horoscope-Various-Domitude module.  These might be what you are looking for. Ed

[Francesco-Faraoni]

I have attached an image to understand the importance of this degree, which for example is present in the Prometheus Capricorn software. In the chart, we can observe Pluto, which at the time of observation has an extreme latitude (+8). In the chart, Pluto is indicated at 19? e 33' Leo (which is correct) in the 6th house, but its latitude is so extreme that in the local sphere, in optical reality, Pluto is in the 7th house and not in the 6th. In fact, the calculated Passage Degree is 6?06' Virgo, which identifies the "real" position of Pluto, real in relation to the perception of the local sphere.

It's a somewhat complicated concept to understand, but as you know, planets also have movement in latitude, and the zodiacal longitude is a value given without respect to latitude, as if the planet were always at latitude zero. The Passage degree (used, for example, by the Prometheus software) is a sort of indicator of the real position of the planet and corresponds to the position in DH.