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Greg Young

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Converse Solar Returns
« on: May 15, 2024, 09:47:25 AM »
I would like to know if there is a facility in any of the later versions for 'Converse' Solar returns* or Transits as well as the current Progressions.

*commonly used by Archie Dunlop on his youtube channel.

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2024, 10:05:21 AM »
There are some converse progression techniques in horoscope progression. No plans on converse return sorry.
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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2024, 11:21:19 AM »
Thank you for your prompt reply. :)

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2024, 07:51:06 AM »
Hey Greg,
you can type in horoscope/return/solar  a negative age.
For example -1 for the 1. solarreturn before birth.

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2024, 08:59:59 AM »
I did not knew that  ;D
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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2024, 07:24:13 PM »
I just came here to ask the same question as OP, and the - technique works. Thanks Vol2  ;D

I still can't figure out how to do converse transits though, if anybody could help with that?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2024, 07:26:22 PM by Lisha »

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2024, 07:54:15 PM »
in my book there's no such thing.
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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2024, 04:28:03 PM »
Hi there - you could try Progressions-Diurnal Horoscope. This calculates converse transits for a chosen date, as well as direct transits.

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2024, 04:37:06 PM »
I should have said "i don't know about such a thing", lesson learned.  ;D
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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2024, 05:35:29 PM »
Hello Lisha, I didn't quite understand at first what reverse transit was meant to be.
I think you mean that the period from the time of birth to a certain date is subtracted from the time of birth and a transit chart is then made for this.
I have experimented a little and written a small program. That's enough for me, if you want more, you'll have to consult Jean and Ed.
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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2024, 06:08:25 PM »
I also didn't know about it. Works nice Volker.
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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2024, 07:06:32 PM »
Hi Volker - thanks for sharing this script. It has very similar functionality to Diurnal Horoscope. Comparing the calculations between the two, there seems to be a two-day discrepancy between mine and yours. I can get the scripts to agree if I add 2 days at this line to your script.

`time diff in jd
 jdDif = (jdnow - jdbirth) - zone + 2;

I'm trying to work out why. I'm not sure which script is right, but it would be good to have agreement between the two.

Thanks so much. Ed

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2024, 07:12:55 PM »
Hi Volker - update:

If I just calculate a single converse date with my script, then both scripts give the same output, the problem must be something to do with my +/- days function, which your script does not have.

I will try and debug mine.

Thanks. Ed

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2024, 09:39:02 PM »
Hi Volker - I have fixed the bug, thanks. I will forward the revised Diurnal Horoscope script to Jean tomorrow for the update. Ed

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Re: Converse Solar Returns
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2024, 07:14:52 AM »
I used to regard these retrograde types of transits, solars and directions as a gimmick.
Now that I've experimented a little, I've noticed some interesting results.
A critical moment in my life is reflected in the time of my grandfather in WW2.
Perhaps this is also a way to track down epigenetic factors or traumas.
I will now look at these reflections of time more seriously.