Antiscias in the radix chart

[Nefgem]

Hello everybody 

Is there is a way that the antiscias of the planets appear in the radix chart ?
I use Anticia a lot, I have seen an anticia chart but not both on the same chart
Coud be very very usefull !!

thnks

[Jean]

I don't think so. Do Help - Search and antiscia.
You could use File Synastry and do some combo with an antiscia chart, but 'in the chart' no.
I could add them to Options extra column, just like dwad.

[Nefgem]

hi Jean
ok it would be cool but if we can have them in extra column its great
thks !
 

[Nefgem]

( bay the way there is a bug in the antiscia chart )
look at Saturne for exemple

[Jean]

please always give complete data with examples so i can calculate them.
It's unlikely there's an error though, all antiscia are calculated by the same formula.

[Nefgem]

Antiscia are calculated at the same distance equal from the solstices right ?

chart
June 11 1973
18h35 pm
Saturne antiscia should be 7° cancer
but here it is located 18° Cancer

another example
November 21 2020
17h50
Moon is wrong

[Jean]

What is your reference?
Ed and I both use a different way to calc antiscia but we have equal results, compare declination - antiscia with for instance Various chart scopes.

[Nefgem]

ah ok I did not know that we took into account the declination, so I cannot answer you. I have so far always seen antisces at an equal distance from 0 ° of cancer / Capricorn without other considerations. Maybe you can explain your différent views here

[Jean]

I'm sorry, it has become so comprehensive i'm loosing my way myself. I'm having trouble remembering it all
It seems there is longitude and declination antiscia. Maybe Ed can share a bit more light.
Look at horoscope extra mirror, those are longitude antiscia's.

[Nefgem]

ok great Im learning things
so adding Antisicia in extra column is ok if you could
 

[ABer]

Hi - I always calculate antiscia using only longitude. I don't take declination into account. See the Classical and Medieval scripts. Ed

[Nefgem]

hi Ed
Could you check in this case the calculations of the antiscias because I find weird positions in the charts below
If there is a difference between the antiscias and mirror themes (which seems to be based on exact longitude) what would it be?


hhaaaa unless the Horoscope / Declinations / Antiscias chart only concerns planets with declinations
in this case the mirror chart IS the longitude antisces chart.

We can only I think create synastrie with the mirror chart ( not the medieval module )




chart
June 11 1973
18h35 pm paris france
Saturne antiscia should be 7° cancer
but here it is located 18° Cancer

another example
November 21 2020
17h50 paris france
Moon is wrong

[ABer]

Hi Jeremy - I checked the traditional modules and the antiscia, calculated for just zodiacal longitude, checks out with your figure of 7 Cancer. The figure of 18 Cancer seems to refer to antiscia of the longitude equivalent position. See attached. I am not familiar with this method or its logic, but Jean seems to favour this for his declination modules. Maybe he is familiar with the work of the individual who advances this theory. Kt Boehrer did a lot of innovative stuff with declination so it might be from her.

https://www.astrologysoftware.com/community/learn/articles/article_124.html

I hope that helps. Ed

[Jean]

[confused]
antisica longitude is a simple formula wich rotates everything round the cancer - capricorn axis. a - (90 -a)
declination antiscia is more complex.
Ed in your code you also do math stuff like antiscia = 3 * Pi - planet * Pi / 180;  .
Trees and forest for me atm

[ABer]

Hi Jeremy - this is what you want. Use Horoscope-Extra-Mirror and choose the Classic option for antiscia calculated by zodiacal longitude only, ignoring declination adjustments. Ed